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Historian of science, secrecy, and nuclear weapons. Professor of STS at @FollowStevens. UC Berkeley alum with a Harvard PhD. NUKEMAP creator. Coder and web dev.

Hoboken, NJ / NYC
blog.nuclearsecrecy.com
Joined September 2011

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    1. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 14 Sep 2018
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      I e-mailed John and he confirmed that it was the cobalt content that was being referred to by Agnew.

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    2. Casillic‏ @Casillic 14 Sep 2018
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      So the little boy had cobalt components. Did he say if it was the tamper that contained it? Do you have his book? According to Agnew it’s in John’s book. I don’t have it to look...

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    6. 𖠊Col. Sal- Revolution Pilot𖠃‏ @Mk2Salamnder 14 Sep 2018
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      I am trying to understand this, so the nose of little boy acted as a neutron reflector as well?

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    9. Casillic‏ @Casillic 14 Sep 2018
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      Guess first questions is why are those components different than those on the Fat Man device? Is it some requirement inherent in gun type weapon? The need for steel and hence the alloys vs an implosion weapon? They both have a tampers though..?

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    10. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 14 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @Casillic @Mk2Salamnder @NuclearAnthro

      Role of the tamper is the same in both devices: hold the reacting material together longer, reflect neutrons back into the core. Improves efficiency. They used unenriched U metal for the FM tamper.

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      Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 14 Sep 2018
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      I don't recall seeing any explanation of why they used WC in LB instead of U, though they also studied U. My guess (half-memory?) is that they were worried about excess neutrons in the core causing predetonation possibilities. U has a real background neutron rate, WC does not.

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        2. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 14 Sep 2018
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          When you are assembling multiple crits in an inefficient way, you want to make sure the thing doesn't really start until it is supposed to start. The U-235's surface was coated with cadmium to absorb stray neutrons as well.

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        3. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 14 Sep 2018
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          Here's a nice bit from a 1944 report. Same report notes that they wanted to play with the cobalt levels to see how it affected the ductility of the tamper, but that they wanted to be conservative with what was understood. https://www.osti.gov/opennet/servlets/purl/16135471.pdf …pic.twitter.com/ZTcDbIsRvT

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        4. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 14 Sep 2018
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          A slightly later 1944 doc indicates the different levels of Co they experimented with for the gun program (3, 6, 9%). From what I can tell, John thinks it was 6% based on an experimental report, not I think, bc something said the final version was 6%. https://www.osti.gov/opennet/servlets/purl/16135456.pdf …pic.twitter.com/wLR0cdBXVy

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        5. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 14 Sep 2018
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          Unrelated, but interesting: in a report on "tests we should do to make sure LB is safe-ish," one of the fears is that it could go critical from having lots of (water-filled) people near it. How to test the limit? Gather lots of people, see what happens! https://www.osti.gov/opennet/servlets/purl/938436.pdf …pic.twitter.com/AADzL5JM6P

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        6. Martin “Doomsday” Pfeiffer (⧖)  🏳️‍🌈‏ @NuclearAnthro 14 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @wellerstein @Casillic @Mk2Salamnder

          🤦‍♂️ I love the next line about “well, water immersion will give an upper limit also”

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        7. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 14 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @NuclearAnthro @Casillic @Mk2Salamnder

          I mean it's not like water immersion of fissile material can cause problems...pic.twitter.com/UfoQeooTOY

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        8. 𖠊Col. Sal- Revolution Pilot𖠃‏ @Mk2Salamnder 14 Sep 2018
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          Isn't that the basis of the early "water boiler" experiments

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        9. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 14 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @Mk2Salamnder @NuclearAnthro @Casillic

          The water boiler was an actual reactor design (if a simple one). This was just them putting HEU in water to make measurements — much less thought seems to have gone into the criticality dangers.

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        2. Martin “Doomsday” Pfeiffer (⧖)  🏳️‍🌈‏ @NuclearAnthro 14 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @wellerstein @Casillic @Mk2Salamnder

          So I have a declassed doc on this in which that sentence is redacted but it’s obviously what is said re: neutrons from natrl U. Let me get out of class and I will send.

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        3. Martin “Doomsday” Pfeiffer (⧖)  🏳️‍🌈‏ @NuclearAnthro 14 Sep 2018
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          Martin “Doomsday” Pfeiffer (⧖)  🏳️‍🌈 Retweeted Martin “Doomsday” Pfeiffer (⧖)  🏳️‍🌈

          https://twitter.com/nuclearanthro/status/935011250811035649?s=21 … It’s from one of the glasstone classed docs on nukes. Will get full citation later.

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          Martin “Doomsday” Pfeiffer (⧖)  🏳️‍🌈 @NuclearAnthro
          2/2 I would bet a lot of money that “It is for this reason [REDACTED]...” should be: “It is for this reason [Little Boy/US gun type weapons do not use natural U tampers” IT IS SO VERY OBVIOUS. pic.twitter.com/QgqADqCMnj
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        4. 𖠊Col. Sal- Revolution Pilot𖠃‏ @Mk2Salamnder 14 Sep 2018
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          So much math in nuclear physics If only it was easier to calculate Z in my back yard breeder reactor shielding. Half of that statement is true I hate math and skipped half of Glasstone because it was using Greek symbols

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