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There is no evidence that the Nagasaki bombing played any actual role in the decision to surrender, as an aside. Hiroshima — maybe. But most historians agree Nagasaki didn't affect things in any significant way, and was probably unnecessary.
And the "was never going to stop" bit is patently false. The Japanese high command was searching for ways to end the war. I don't want to underrepresent the complexity of that. But you've got totally wrong ideas floating around your head. If you want a reading list, just ask.
Lastly: I'm not sure who you're addressing with the "no apologies," but that's not my aim here. My aim is for people to understand what it was, beyond the myths. The Nagasaki run was a mishap-filled slaughter of non-combatants, and not part of any coordinate strategy.
This is true whether you think it was ultimately justified or not, which is a separate question entirely, and informed people can come to different conclusions on that. But you've got to get the facts straight first, or else you're just repeating someone's propaganda.
"Searching for ways to end the war"? I guess the high command forgot to tell both the soldiers and the citizens.
Yeah, that's kind of how high level negotiations and internal discussions work. Have you read anything about the surrender efforts? I can give you a list. This is not hard to look up. You know, if you don't want to come off as totally ignorant.
I'm willing to learn. But "surrender efforts"? The announcement to the Japanese Nation didn't even include the word surrender, because it was so inconceivable as an option. You're making it sound like Japan had a plan to surrender *before Nagasaki. If you have that, I'll look.
I'll write a longer Tweet thread, but there were members of the Japanese high command — including the Emperor — who were seriously trying to find a diplomatic end to the war well prior to Hiroshima. There were many stumbling blocks. But they were not all suicidal fanatics.
I didnt say *all. But why train (& sometimes force) 1000's of young Men to fly planes, ram subs, & boats into our ships? Why convince a population (soldier & civilians w/children!) that it'd be better to die than be taken prisoner like on the cliffs of Saipan as just 1 example?
My mother was born in 1938; the war was a huge-all-encompassing thing in her life, way beyond its actual terminal dates. And she still firmly believes that "they never would have stopped" story.
But they didn't stop, not even after Hiroshima. They waited 6 days *after Nagasaki before even contacting the US about surrendering. Many 1000's of soldiers & civilians alike committed suicide rather than doing so. That's not a 'story'.
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