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Historian of science, secrecy, and nuclear weapons. Professor of STS at @FollowStevens. UC Berkeley alum with a Harvard PhD. NUKEMAP creator. Coder and web dev.

Hoboken, NJ / NYC
blog.nuclearsecrecy.com
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    1. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 13 Jul 2018
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      Alex Wellerstein Retweeted Audra J. Wolfe

      There seems to be a lot confusion in the replies here regarding what Audra is saying — which is an entirely uncontroversial statement within the academic disciplines that study how science works now and in the past (e.g., the History, Anthropology, & Sociology of Science).https://twitter.com/ColdWarScience/status/1017211382176059392 …

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      Audra J. WolfeVerified account @ColdWarScience
      | ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄| Science has always been Political |___________| (\__/) || (•ㅅ•) || /   づ #HistorianSignBunny
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    2. Cormac O Rafferty‏ @CormacORafferty 15 Jul 2018
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      Also, I don't think there is any evidence that Rutherford's discovery of the nucleus was political..nor have I ever sen any evidence that the early quantum theory .was impacted by politics....perhpas the tweet pertians to technology more than to science

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    3. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 15 Jul 2018
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      Cormac, you're I believe misunderstanding "political" again. But at a basic level, with early QM: why was it that early QM was overrepresented by Jewish practitioners? Because (as I am sure you know) they were excluded from experimental work for racial reasons.

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    4. Cormac O Rafferty‏ @CormacORafferty 15 Jul 2018
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      No, that is one possible reason, beloved by STS scholars. Jewish theoreticians thrived in many other places where they were not discriminated against. Again, you are talking about the reaction to discoveries, not the discoveries themselves....do you ever listen to a physicist?

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    5. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 15 Jul 2018
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      Discrimination against Jews in higher education was widespread even into the 1950s, even in America — surely you are aware of this? But anyway, surely you are not going to deny that the pervasive racism and sexism somehow didn't apply to areas of science?

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    6. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 15 Jul 2018
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      (And to ask your snarky question — I've listened to many a physicist, Cormac! Some of my best colleagues are physicists. And some of my favorite historians are physicists, too. But I also listen to lots of different forms of expertise. All part of the job, alas.)

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      Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 15 Jul 2018
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      I am saying that the context of the discoveries is itself necessarily shaped by the context in which the work is done. Full stop. It might be subtle, it might be extreme. Depends on the circumstance. But it's there. Hard to imagine what a context-free discovery would look like.

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        2. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 15 Jul 2018
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          (Separately, you will be amused I am sure to know that David Kaiser — historian of physicist and actively publishing theoretical physicist — has been working for some years now on a book about the political history of GR. The talks I have seen from it are very interesting!)

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        3. Cormac O Rafferty‏ @CormacORafferty 16 Jul 2018
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          Good morning! Yes, I know David well, and admire his work. I also hugely enjoyed his lectures on the history of physics at MIT. I think David and I would agree that the initial gestation (as opposed to reception) of GR was simply the curiosity of one man, and not political

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        4. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Jul 2018
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          Well, I think you will be surprised by his book, then! Definitely check it out when it comes out. It is closer to my take on this than yours, in my judgment (from having seen him give talks on it, and having worked as a research assistant for parts of it).

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        2. Cormac O Rafferty‏ @CormacORafferty 15 Jul 2018
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          "If people have strong political responses to science, then it's hard to argue that there isn't something political going on". I profoundly disagree with this statement and so would almost any scientist I know. Context doesn't have to be political, goodnight and good luck

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        3. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 15 Jul 2018
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          If you want to understand my position, Cormac, you need to take the time to read it. I am pretty sure you have probably not really read it and certainly not understood it. (If you don't want to — then don't! I will never force you.)

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        1. Cormac O Rafferty‏ @CormacORafferty Apr 9
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          The real question is whether the context affects the outcome. I worry about scholars such as Harry Collins who make assumptions about the effect of context on an experiment such as Eddington ‘s without any technical knowledge of the subject

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