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Historian of science, secrecy, and nuclear weapons. Professor of STS at @FollowStevens. UC Berkeley alum with a Harvard PhD. NUKEMAP creator. Coder and web dev.

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blog.nuclearsecrecy.com
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    1. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 14 Jun 2018
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      This is not an Einstein defense. The guy was imperfect and often unpleasant to say the least; that's not new (to scholars anyway). But the way this is being used to frame his civil rights advocacy as hypocrisy is more revealing about the polarization of *our* time than Einstein.

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    2. Arrigo Triulzi‏ @cynicalsecurity 14 Jun 2018
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      A beautifully balanced set of tweets which pick up on historical nuance which is no longer fashionable. You cannot trivially judge by applying current standards. A similar treatment is needed for Feynman, amongst others, who is being vilified by “modern standards”.

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    3. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 14 Jun 2018
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      Mm, it's worth talking about Einstein and Feynman here. 1. I think there's a difference between "6 months of a travel diary, selectively excerpted" and "stories you tell about yourself in public." Feynman's case is a stronger argument that his views on women were core to him.

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    4. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 14 Jun 2018
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      2. Einstein's case is a question of whether being repulsed by foreign people and customs on a trip invalidates your civil rights and anti-racism advocacy. I don't think it does. Feynman's, though, doesn't have any balance to it. It's just, was Feynman misogynistic?

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    5. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 14 Jun 2018
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      And in Feynman's case, it's hard not to re-read some of those parts of "Surely You're Joking" and not get grossed out. "You Just Ask Them?" isn't pretty. And yes, one could say, it's how men talked about women at the time. Maybe that's true. But still.

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    6. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 14 Jun 2018
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      I think we're allowed to say, that Feynman's approach to women was pretty horrid by modern standards. It's not an argument about hypocrisy — it's just how he was. He doesn't deny it; he brags about it. There's something trickier there.

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      It doesn't invalidate Feynman's contributions to science — but it perhaps ought to temper the "Feynman was great in every way" approach. I'm fine with saying, "Feynman was an impressive thinker, but could be a very flawed (dumb?) human being on other fronts."

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    8. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 14 Jun 2018
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      And the sexism in "Surely You're Joking" certainly means I wouldn't buy it for a young, impressionable future scientist today (male or female). It dates and mars it in the worse way. (In a way a lot of classic sci-fi is similarly dated and marred.)

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    9. Arrigo Triulzi‏ @cynicalsecurity 14 Jun 2018
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      Perhaps, from a different point of view, it is important to read “Surely You’re Joking” even as a young student if someone helps you to put it in perspective, if only to see how things have marginally improved.

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    10. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 14 Jun 2018
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      The danger with "Surely You're Joking" is that there is a certain brand of smart-alecky male who identifies very strongly with Feynman's self presentation — the, "I'm just trying to have a good time, and I happen to be smart in a world full of dummies" thing.

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      Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 14 Jun 2018
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      I think that's already a problematic aspect to Feynman (I am inherently suspicious of such narratives) and Feynman fan-boys, but when you add the casual and overt misogyny as part of that "package," it gets pretty toxic pretty quickly.

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        2. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 14 Jun 2018
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          And whenever I have a book that I think might or might not be useful for a younger person, I always want to ask, would I feel comfortable giving this to a female student? If the answer is no, then I don't want to give it to ANY student.

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