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    n-gate‏ @webshitweekly Mar 19

    n-gate Retweeted Yonatan Zunger  🔥

    Information Technology: the only remaining industry where "should we hold people accountable for their actions?" is still an open question.https://twitter.com/yonatanzunger/status/975554497094103041 …

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    Yonatan Zunger  🔥 @yonatanzunger
    I've been wanting to talk to numerous people in this and related fields (eg @lizthegrey, @LeaKissner, @avflox, @anildash, and @amac just to name a handful out of dozens) about this question: Is it time for enforceable ethics in CS?
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      1. s952163‏ @BlackKurtosis Mar 19
        Replying to @webshitweekly

        The existence of FB and Google shows that this is a closed question. And the amswer was no.

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      1. Andreⓐ‏ @puellavulnerata Apr 29
        Replying to @webshitweekly @shadowcat_mst

        That clownfucker can keep his laws off my hardware

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      2. David Turner‏ @NovalisDMT Mar 19
        Replying to @webshitweekly @stdio54

        Do you want this to be the tech version of the American Medical Association, or do you want it to be run by the Trump administration? Neither seems good to me.

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      3. deep steak‏ @slyphon Mar 19
        Replying to @NovalisDMT @webshitweekly @stdio54

        Starting by having a professional trade organization for computer programmers would be a pretty good start, I think.

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      4. David Turner‏ @NovalisDMT Mar 19
        Replying to @slyphon @webshitweekly @stdio54

        So, that's the AMA model. Which does a pretty good job of keeping people from being doctors (and keeping non-doctors from doing medical work), but doesn't seem to do a great job at making American medical care any good.

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      5. deep steak‏ @slyphon Mar 19
        Replying to @NovalisDMT @webshitweekly @stdio54

        That's not its function. The AMA is there to set standards for doctors as a profession, which is orthogonal to the whole of american healthcare being a dumpster fire. Ok, how about a plumbers' union?

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      6. deep steak‏ @slyphon Mar 19
        Replying to @slyphon @NovalisDMT and

        Basically, dis-incentivizing people from breaking the ethical code by imposing a large cost on being kicked out of the group

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      8. deep steak‏ @slyphon Mar 19
        Replying to @stdio54 @NovalisDMT @webshitweekly

        I think there needs to be a professional aspect to this though. You need to make sure the programmers feel pain when asked to do something unethical. Apart from the company, that it'll tarnish *them*.

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      9. deep steak‏ @slyphon Mar 19
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        Thinking of it purely from a game-theoretical or economic angle, how you can influence people to make the right choices

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      1. Not A Laser‏ @NotALaser Mar 21
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        People asking questions like these with a straight face is why electrical engineers put quotes around the "engineering" in software "engineering".

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