Culturally, I think we should start viewing ourselves as consumers of ideas that leave a lot of them to rot out on the counter.
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Kinda crazy how much more advice there is on persuading people than on being persuaded. Not just when to buy an argument, but also how to get it to percolate through your models of the world & actually behave as though you'd bought it.
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I don't understand it.
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Persuasion is nice but I don't think it should be the main objective of conversing. Even getting them to understand your point isn't. The objective should be learning fun things.
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It is also too ambitious. When two people disagree they actually disagree on thousands of things and a single discussion will never be enough to achieve a lot of alignment even if that was a sensible goal.
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Until I got to know someone good at this for a human, I only paid lip service to the idea that you can do it. I didn't really know that I didn't know.
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"don't look at who made the idea, in fact don't even look at which website it was posted on, in fact have your favorite public intellectual read the idea out loud to you"
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still convinced that these particular organic intelligences don't like to have their utility functions changed and must be deceived into having it done
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That’s basically what all of Greek and Roman philosophy was about.
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There is more profit in persuasion, so of course it is the more prevalent. But
@RobertCialdini ‘s “influence” was targeted at the recipient and the lessons work in both directionsThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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