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    1. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 26 Apr 2018
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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️ Retweeted Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️

      Fight mehttps://twitter.com/webdevMason/status/989519345360424960 …

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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️ @webdevMason
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      Problems in education are over-described on the object level but given woefully little context, which makes sense for a system first designed to create pliant industrial/farm workers. The pressure to "learn" is partly teachers incentivized by test scores & partly cultural mythos
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    2. Jeremy Hogg‏ @jhogg17 26 Apr 2018
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      School was not designed to create pliant workers; it was at the risk of it. To defend otherwise will require showing that conformity aimed tactics were more than risk mitigation. For knowledge and ability are clearly risks to compliance. #fought

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    3. Jeremy Hogg‏ @jhogg17 26 Apr 2018
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      *'at the risk or reducing compliance', as the second clause of the first semtence, would be more formal eg better logic. Anywho. Didnt want to leave you hanging if you were sick of getting away with loose stream of thought. Eg wanted a fight. So take that.

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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 26 Apr 2018
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      Compulsory childhood education genuinely was designed to train adherence to authority & serve the labor market that existed at the time, and the format hasn't changed much. But yes, learning *does* present a risk to compliance, which is why very little of it happens at school

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        2. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 26 Apr 2018
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          Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️ Retweeted Jeremy Hogg

          As you've pointed out, there are tons of great resources in schools, but students are given limited access to them. I think they're mostly props, tbh.https://twitter.com/jhogg17/status/989523555002994693 …

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          To complete the thought: if viewed as a resource, with opportunity cost, and all the normal good perceptions of a (mere) resource, the institution is more useful and less mentally unhealthy than when imbued with dogmatic and somehow perscriptive value (which I take to be usual).
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        3. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 26 Apr 2018
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          In elementary school, I would stay in at recess to read -- this became a "problem," and I was forced outside. I'd read when the teacher was distracted, then be chided to "stay on task" & do the rote work I already knew how to do. I resorted to smuggling books into the bathroom.

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        2. Adrian Bowyer‏ @adrianbowyer 26 Apr 2018
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          I think that in the modern era, compulsion goes back to Martin Luther or thereabouts and was directed at adherence to religious authority particularly, rather than that needed for the labour market. Though there is the Protestant Work Ethic, of course...

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        3. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 26 Apr 2018
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          I've got a book with a great chapter on this. I'm digging around for it, but the book piles in this apartment are intense

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        2. Jason Bucata‏ @jb31842 26 Apr 2018
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          John Taylor Gatto has a famous essay laying all of this out... to say otherwise you'd best be served by studying this to start crafting any rebuttals http://www.wesjones.com/gatto1.htm 

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