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    1. Johulka Mohulka‏ @TheRealJohulka Sep 16
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      I can't know Sarah's reasoning. But there is a school of thought whereby more people mean a greater likelihood of brilliant ideas, the best of which will be solutions to our global problems that more than offset the burden of what's ultimately not so many extra mouths to feed.

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    2. Swarn Gill‏ @theedemaruh Sep 16
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      Perhaps, but more people also lead to more problems too. How about if we try to educate children worldwide, especially girls. There 25,000 children who die of starvation each day worldwide. So many possible brilliant ideas wasted.

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    3. Johulka Mohulka‏ @TheRealJohulka Sep 16
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      Oh, I totally agree with you. Educating children, liberating women, raising living standards (the humanist package 101) always lead to lower reproduction numbers - ironclad demographic correlation. Unsure why Sarah mocks the latter, surely she cannot want to question the former?

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    4. Swarn Gill‏ @theedemaruh Sep 16
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      Yeah I don't understand either. I'm just bewildered at get objection to the original post which I thought was a fair commentary. Sorry, I hope it didn't seem like I was attacking. I appreciate you providing some possible reasonable.

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    5. Vaelin Van Gogh‏ @VaelinVanGogh Sep 16
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      Her post referred to the US, not global population. As she stated US reproductive rate is below replacement level. So in the future a small number of young people will have to support a large number of old people while the economy struggles. Same in many developed countries.

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    6. Swarn Gill‏ @theedemaruh Sep 16
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      Sad I had already stated there is much we could do to deal with poverty here before we start adding more people to the problem. Given resources a finite any system which requires continual growth of the population is doomed to fail in the long run

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    7. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason Sep 16
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      The carrying capacity of the earth is contingent on the development and spread of technology. As the population has exploded, the *absolute number* of people living in extreme poverty has actually declined —significantly!pic.twitter.com/SigzIxjMtb

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    8. Swarn Gill‏ @theedemaruh Sep 16
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      I don't think I argued anywhere technology wasn't helpful or poverty wasn't getting better, but what isn't clear is why does it require continued population growth over sustainability. Given finite resources and AGW, exponential population growth doesn't seem the answer.

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    9. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason Sep 16
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      If finite resources were the bottleneck, you would not see fewer people living in abject poverty after going from 1 billion to 7 billion. If agricultural productivity had stagnated, you would have. But more humans = more ideas, and more hands carrying them to fruition.

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    10. Swarn Gill‏ @theedemaruh Sep 16
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      I just don't see this as indefinitely true. And I think we have the ability to make existing people more productive and generate good ideas. We don't need to make more people to do it. Potentially brilliant people who could with many years are dying of malnutrition.

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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason Sep 16
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      I don't know how many people have to be born to get a Thomas Edison or Norman Borlaug, but insofar as it's possible to arbitrarily generate world-changing people, we still don't know how to do it. And that's OK, if the world is populous and diverse enough to do so organically.

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        1. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason Sep 16
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          It's relatively small groups of people that end up generating massive global increases to productivity and quality of life, and thusfar we've had to cultivate a lot of other people and their ideas to make those gains, because failure is the default.

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        2. Swarn Gill‏ @theedemaruh Sep 16
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          But that's my point. We may have many of these people already but they live in poverty, or forced to have babies. And you can say as a % of world population its a lot less, it's still more people suffering everyday than the total population, what, 100 years ago. That's a lot.

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        3. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason Sep 16
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          Yet the rate of technological progress has accelerated alongside population growth, as I'd predict, and I'd predict it to slow with a decline in population for the same reasons. It's still very hard to capture human potential in many parts of the world, but that's shifting, too.

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