Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️

That woman you are talking to could have made TikTok. You'd still demanding it be banned, and still on the basis that Chinese made it. Consider the full spread.

If she did, the situation would be no different, and she and I both know that.

Yeah because she's Chinese obviously. She should have born in America if she wanted to make anything. Big mistake. Big big mistake.

No, because the moral character or intentions of the people running TikTok have absolutely no bearing on whether or not that data is available to the CCP. I don't begrudge anyone working with what they've got, but I'm not going to play stupid.

You actually began this by talking about "culturally entrenched anti-black racism", a pretty stupid prejudicial smear that has a lot to do with moral character. You used that to justify blanket discrimination against Chinese.

Excuse me? The mixed and often uncomfortable experiences of the incredibly minute percentage of black people living in China are well-documented. Tell me: am I to be considered an obvious racist for ignoring them, or for hearing them?

You are being an obvious racist for assigning guilt for anti-Black racism to all Chinese. Naomi, for example, is an anti-racist, but you've already said that if Naomi is earth-2 made TikTok, racism from others in China should be reason enough ban her app.

I would no sooner assign guilt for racism to all Chinese than to all Americans, but the extent to which discriminatory treatment is tolerated or endorsed is an orthogonal question that I'm not afraid to look at squarely. If you're going to put words in my mouth, think first.