she is a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist on the legacy of slavery (and earned her role on the 1619 Project during a long, successful career), who is now saying "yall should reflect on the fact you're getting super worked up about defending a statue of a man who owned a slave"
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Replying to @anniefryman @ben_mathes and
meanwhile a bunch of mostly white people with roughly (a month? two months? zero months?) of 101-level lit review on racial justice under their belts are saying "the Black people should be grateful we're defending a slave owner -- they must be forgetting he did some good things!"
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The things you put in quotes are hardly representative of my thoughts. I do agree that the social cost of anything other than full throated support, even mostly-full-throated-support, is not worth it.
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social cost? my point is that NHJ is on the side of "it's more nuanced than good/evil, lets think critically about history" on both Grant *and* Castro, and is getting attacked for that by people who know far less and desperately want it to be simple and fit neatly in a box
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Replying to @anniefryman @ben_mathes and
I wish there was a “take a break until you finish Ron Chernow’s Grant biography and whatever the best Fidel bio book is which I sadly don’t know” button and then we could all come back together and have a deep discussion.
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Replying to @kimmaicutler @anniefryman and
Eh. I read Chernow on Rockefeller and the house of Morgan. It was fine. I was ruined by Caro.
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Replying to @ben_mathes @anniefryman and
I’m still only halfway through House of Morgan.
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Replying to @kimmaicutler @ben_mathes and
Also Nikole Hannah Jones is impressive and had an incredible body of work prior to joining NYT and 1619 at ProPublica. Would not write her off.
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Replying to @kimmaicutler @ben_mathes and
Kim-Mai Cutler Retweeted Ida Bae Wells
See — this take. That’s the take.https://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status/1274469641969164289?s=21 …
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Ida Bae WellsVerified account @nhannahjonesPerhaps this gives us the opportunity to stop deifying men, who like all human beings, were terribly flawed, and to instead provide an opportunity for a reckoning that does not obscure the complexities of nation built on ideals of freedom and the practice of slavery.Show this thread1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes -
This was never a choice between deifying men or destroying statues. It's important to remember that we don't need to take the frames of the most radical and incoherent decile, or their chosen speakers.
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Replying to @webdevMason @ben_mathes and
I’ve read her for years and I think she is neither radical nor incoherent and she has done years of detailed reporting on education and housing policy in the US.
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Replying to @kimmaicutler @ben_mathes and
To be fair, I find *you* to be something of an SF-brand ideological Markov chain, so I'm not surprised we break on this one.
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