I'm saying both, and most of the military. Probably hospitals too. Any bureaucracy given power over something essential to life is likely to become a threat to life if left to evolve unchecked.
The same people who say "defund police" and then quickly add that they're just talking about reallocating resources to a more specialized & effective multi-pronged effort would absolutely flip their shit if you said "defund schools"
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The important distinction here is whether someone thinks that policing, education, healthcare are tasks that should not be run and funded via public institutions, or whether the current institutions are so broken that they should be disbanded and replaced by new ones.
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1) I disagree with your logic. The defund the police movement is targeted more towards eliminating things like the 1033 program, which allows police agencies to buy surplus military equipment. The argument is could the money used to buy military grade equipment be more useful...
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2) elsewhere in the local community. Arguably if we funnel more money into education and community support, the need for military grade equipment wouldn’t exist. The 1033 program was implemented by Bill Clinton in 1997 and it wasn’t until the Ferguson riots that the program...
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get rid of both!
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I think the 'defund schools' movement already has been tried to some extent with the charter school movement, and that has had mixed results. I do like the idea of 'fire everyone and let's start over' when a public institution is causing a lot of harm.
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Much less defund the state more broadly or reduce taxes.
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This feels like a false equivolency. Is the claim that police funding is similarly effective to school funding? Do you have good evidence to support the effectiveness of police funding? It seems that our default should be to NOT spend a ton of money, unless shown otherwise.
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> Is the claim that police funding is similarly effective to school funding? School funding is far less effective, police funding leads to a quite visible reduction in crime in most situations, school funding works in a very convoluted manner and far weaker effects.
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The push in the 60s/70s to move mentally ill from institutions to community care was predicated on more robust community care (which never materialized.) Many policing problems today stem from this. Maybe we should build up the support systems before banishing the current system.
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Exactly. The homelessness crisis stems from this. 50 years ago these people would be getting treatment. Now they're dumped onto the streets.
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