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    Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason Jun 2
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    It's a privilege to feel safe w police. Speaking as someone covered by a criminal protective order against a man who's threatened to rape, torture and kill several women in the bay area, please remember that it is also a privilege to feel safe in a world that "abolishes" police.

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      2. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky Jun 2
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        You're not solving for the equilibrium! No police means nothing to stop you from hiring an assassin.

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      3. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky Jun 2
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        tbc I'm not actually sure the resulting equilibrium of privately produced assassination threats, insurance agencies guaranteeing investigation and retaliation after your death, etc, is actually worse than the present equilibrium.

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      2. ay-e  👹‏ @ay_e_ Jun 2
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        Ideally the police are abolished in order to restructure the justice system from the ground up, as opposed to pouring time and resources to try and fix a broken system from the inside. At least that's what I hope the abolitionists want

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      3. Connor Harris‏ @cmhrrs Jun 2
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        Many of them really only want (logical and justified) police reforms but call it "abolition" for woke cred

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      1. William‏ @__wmww Jun 2
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        Replying to @webdevMason @Aella_Girl

        This carries the implication that a force resembling our current police system is both effective at preventing violent crime, and the *only possible* effective way to prevent violent crime.

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      1. JamesonLaw‏ @JamesonHalpern Jun 2
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        Protesters SHOULD want: 1. Limit Qualified Immunity 2. Revise Labor Laws to make firing easier 3. Dispute Resolution training instead of just military training 4. End to stupid authoritarian laws that police must enforce 5. Community engagement
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      1. Ian Tyrrell‏ @RodeoClownII Jun 2
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        Which police? Something I discovered when I moved to the US is that you don't have "the police" like we do in Australia. You've got thousands of different "police", with each city's a little different, and with no overarching organisation being accountable for all. Felt odd!

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      2. Enye Word‏ @EnyeWord Jun 2
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        @shieldfoss made a great point once that once police are abolished, what's to stop you from killing people you think ought to be policed? This has a variety of implications and I think about it frequently.

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        The job of the police is to protect criminals. Without police, most criminals' life expectancy gets drastically shorter.

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      1. Advocatus Diaboli‏ @Diaboli_Advocat Jun 2
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        Without police, there will be more direct ways of dealing said man. No orders needed. If you look at the statistics, the "stronger" the police force is (military gear, less community policing etc.), the higher the crime rate. This is not only correlation, but causal.

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