I'm certainly not talking about anything involuntary. Agency is the holy grail, isn't it? But I'd rather have no youtube than no agency.
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Replying to @AustenLamacraft @webdevMason and
Unsupervised Youtube does seem dangerous for kids. Youtube's algorithms lean heavily toward exploitative clown shit that seems guaranteed to make kids incredibly stupid. Within an hour of following suggested vids from quantum mechanics, a kid will end up at Logan Paul.
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Replying to @jcrichman @AustenLamacraft and
I'm assuming you actually believe the sentiment behind this — Why? Where did you first hear it, or from whom? What's your experience with Youtube search/recommendations, and how would you change it?
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Replying to @webdevMason @AustenLamacraft and
I've seen the stuff my niece and nephew gravitate to on Youtube. It's worse than an "ow my balls" parody. I had to sit down with my nephew and show him a slower longer video and the cool stuff in it; he got totally engrossed, but nobody had done that before.
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Replying to @jcrichman @webdevMason and
Kids aren't designed by default to process complexity without a little help, while Youtube's algorithms are designed to allow professionals to exploit them at 80 second intervals with almost no interaction. It's the kind of thing Ray Bradbury would start a riot if he saw.
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Replying to @jcrichman @AustenLamacraft and
What on earth are you talking about? Kids are designed to digest immense complexity.
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Replying to @webdevMason @jcrichman and
Adults and kids are both fairly stupid in front of a system that is designed to exploit the stimulus seeking behaviour that served us so well over our evolutionary history
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Replying to @AustenLamacraft @jcrichman and
This is another really, really bad meme. It's an excuse for people to never confront the reasons they enjoy or desire low status or low social value activities, offered at the cost of calling themselves, their friends and their children stupid.
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Replying to @webdevMason @AustenLamacraft and
We're talking about different things. Austen (I think) and I are not talking about kids needing, like, "educational content" or to be expected to like things that adult likes. This is about Youtube's algorithms essentially being designed as a crack pipe for toddlers.
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Replying to @jcrichman @webdevMason and
Watch this guy's presentation from about timestamp 7:20 to about 7:50, just half a minute:https://youtu.be/v9EKV2nSU8w?t=440 …
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I'm aware. I spent quite a lot of time trying to replicate those results on youtube in 2018 as it approached full-on moral panic, and I was never able to. Nor was I able to find anyone talking about this problem organically rather than talking about media coverage of the problem.
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