I'd estimate 0.5-1% CFR where hospital systems aren't overwhelmed (to the point of triage to palliative) & 2+% where they are Risk factors aren't evenly distributed. 10.9% of Americans are diabetic. Last data I saw: 1/3 of ICU cases diabetic. We're not going to look like S Korea
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Replying to @webdevMason @Jason
Just FYI, as of this morning there are 4,758 NY deaths meaning that in the past *month*, a roughly equal number of people have died of COVID in the state as generally die of the flu + pneumonia in a *year*
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Replying to @webdevMason @Jason
Easy to get to that figure when they are counting every single COVID19 patient who dies as a COVID19 death, regardless of what the physicians determines the cause of death to be. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200401-coronavirus-why-death-and-mortality-rates-differ …pic.twitter.com/7K3cGIBg5m
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Replying to @Silicontrary @Jason
COVID is known to cause heart damage via multiple pathways; hypertension + cardiovascular disease are risk factors on par with lung disease But "deaths overstated" is a fun take while NYC considered mass burials in a park because they don't have enough freezer trucks
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Replying to @webdevMason @Jason
For reference, NYC had a morgue capacity of 900, and that's worked just fine for them prior to this — that should give you a sense of how mortality has exploded in the city in the past 2-3 weeks
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Replying to @webdevMason @Jason
You're working from the assumption that these issues are due to sheer body count and not bottle necks. 1) Funeral homes are not taking bodies because they get their money from gatherings, which cannot be held. 2) Morgues are holding bodies longer bc of testing requirements
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Replying to @Silicontrary @Jason
It's clearly both. 1 is false; funeral homes are overflowing. 2 may be a contributing factor, but would hardly matter if deaths were a rounding error on top of anticipated all-cause mortality. Mass burials in parks are not a topic of conversation during a bad flu season.
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Replying to @webdevMason @Jason
It's not false. This is straight from the NYT: And no, of course not... but that's because flu seasons have never had an government-forced bottleneck like this before.pic.twitter.com/s9NhtUI8j4
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Cemeteries are burying LESS bodies. Clear as day right there, right from the horses mouth. I can link you the article if you want.
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Replying to @Silicontrary @Jason
To what degree? Cutting back to strictly essential staff will slow all these processes, certainly. But it's not going to account for maxing out space in freezer trucks. Your claim was that funeral homes are refusing bodies because it's not profitable to take them. False.
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Anyway, I don't play games with people who keep their goal posts on wheels. Have fun, kids.
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