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    8. Kelsey Piper‏ @KelseyTuoc Apr 2
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      Nope, definitely not. The reason for "maybe consider" is what Scott writes in this post:https://slatestarcodex.com/2020/03/31/ssc-journal-club-macintyre-on-cloth-masks/ …

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    9. Kelsey Piper‏ @KelseyTuoc Apr 2
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      I think the evidence for cloth masks is really ambiguous and we're all making a high stakes call in an environment of intense uncertainty. (The evidence for non-cloth masks is much stronger, but we have shortages of those.)

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    10. Kelsey Piper‏ @KelseyTuoc Apr 2
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      Trying to have the courage of my convictions, here, but not more courage than I have convictions. I give, like, a 40% chance that cloth helps and a 30% chance it hurts and a 30% chance that we are never able to detect an effect of any kind.

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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason Apr 4
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      I think "30% hurts" is *really* high. No study is perfect, but the one everyone is passing around does not, in any meaningful sense, have a control group. Second, looking at health workers who'd be at high risk even in full PPE w/ decontamination protocols doesn't tell us much.

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        2. Kelsey Piper‏ @KelseyTuoc Apr 4
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          yeah, that's fair. Divia's point (that having a reservoir close to your face potentially matters a lot for bacteria, and can't for viruses) made me update a little; I'd probably put it lower now

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        3. Emma  😷‏ @geekethics Apr 4
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          I'm curious where that 30% is coming from. is it a specific model of how harm could happen? or just a general "medicine is messy we should be less confident" thing?

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          These are abstinence-only level arguments she is making

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