Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️

I think I agree that more of it comes from game-playing, but to me they both spring from the deeper frame that leads to both - putting immediate feelings and comfort over deeper values and consequences. You can't disentangle one from the other.

If "he doesn't value my feelings" weren't pretty close to the #1 complaint women seem to have about the men they date, I might see the argument? As it stands, it kinda just sounds like you have a pretty thick skin and you think the game should favor people like you

I don't think I see the connection between that statement and the current convo. Maybe you can point out the step? As an aside here's someone saying that this happened to them:https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexNelsonn18/status/1237177642929065987 …

"putting immediate feelings and comfort over deeper values and consequences" — if men think this is what is happening in the modern dating world, I don't think women would agree; I don't think they feel especially coddled or comforted.

I think immediate feelings are often as much about saving my own sense of discomfort as yours. For instance I think the "I have somewhere to be excuse" is often about avoiding an awkward interaction.

If you reject someone, you are not going to be the one dealing with their emotional response.

I think that really depends on the specific interaction and dynamic.

After a first date? No. It would be extremely bizarre for someone you met for the first time an hour ago to ask you to let them cry at you.