Universities are honestly the strangest institutions. Responsible for the feeding & caring of the nation's Science People, but also for credentialing a *bunch* of random jobs via licensure reqs that are all over the place; conduit for a $1.5T debt crisis but still much beloved
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It's how I imagine religion *used to be,* so deeply entrenched and widely presumed that almost nobody even notices that the incentives at play seem unlikely to drive desirable outcomes and the proof is absolutely in the pudding
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Does this seem a bit extreme? OK, but the story told by the numbers is that people are willing to pay essentially Infinite Dollars for whatever it is that college is gatekeeping, and back at the ranch scientific progress, the thing we were ostensibly funding, seems to have slowed
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I think it's unlikely that my kids go to college, at least not at the modern price point. I don't know, maybe it'll be their rebellion. "Do I think you should take on the equivalent of a down payment for a million dollar house at 17, on non-dischargeable credit? No son, I do not"
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The average student debt load upon graduation is about $27k: less than the average price of a new car, hardly a down payment on a $1 million house.
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And only 14 months of the average wage premium of a bachelor’s degree over a HS diploma would cover $27k:https://twitter.com/informema/status/1212734650235441152 …
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Primary driver of student debt = students who graduate late or not at all, which collectively make up the majority of all students. Nobody anticipates losing speed or dropping out, ofc. But the massive overall debt load is the smell test that the current system is failing
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I agree that a 57% 6-yr completion rate is a huge problem. Much of this has to do with a lack of real mentoring of 1st-gen college students, who have much lower completion rates than those with a college-grad parent.
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Maybe, I doubt it though. Really, I think "lack of mentoring" is almost never a tractable aspect of any problem. Almost like "if we want fewer divorces, all we have to do is get people to marry better people."
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People don’t realize the number of paths they can take because of unfamiliarity. The kids of lawyers are much more likely to go to law school. Same for doctors, engineers, etc. I was totally lost my first year at college because my parents hadn’t gone and couldn’t advise.
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I had two college grad parents and still managed to drop out — and not the sexy Silicon Valley way, either. Got an email from grandma shortly thereafter asking if I was homeless yet. As in all things, YMMV.
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Well I’m not as cynical about higher ed as I used to be, but I get where you’re coming from. However, given that you are clearly a valuable mentor to a bunch of people, I am surprised you’re down on mentoring.
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