Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️

I am sympathetic to this. Kids should be protected, by both parents and teachers. OTOH, imagine if you applied this to another workplace? "McDonald's employees should strike against the marketing of unhealthy Happy Meals to children. Can't believe they only strike about wages!"

I see people argue that teachers should *both* be held to a higher standard *and* be paid less than private sector counterparts. Teachers would be better able to read up on the evidence and take a principled stand if they weren't already working 50+ hour weeks.

And, more than teachers, I would argue that parents have a voice - which is where this discussion started. Parents and teachers should work together to challenge norms that don't help children learn. (Just please don't yell at teachers about the homework policy.) /end

FWIW, - teachers' unions and teachers are two separate entities; AFAICT, the unions hold the real power - private school teachers earn less than public school teachers https://twitter.com/webdevMason/status/1029764091810725888?s=20 … - not yelling at a child on behalf of a teacher is not a crime against the teacher.

Yeah, not telling at your child is not what I'm talking about. I had had an uncountable number of students' parents yell at me on an uncountable variety of topics, and I was only a FT teacher for less than two years.

Then remember that what you've been replying to this entire time is the very idea of a parent saying "I won't make my child do that." It's laughable that the teacher would be the victim, there.

*sigh* What I've been trying to suggest, repeatedly, is that you need to aim higher than teachers. Use teachers as your allies and change the system.

If the teachers themselves supposedly have no influence over the system, then how much influence do you think the parents have?