Who is proposing hamstringing the ability to navigate the search space for the best stuff?
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Replying to @VitalikButerin @paulg
You've described one major process by which this occurs as a "negative externality." Maybe you're defining that in some way other than what I'm accustomed to.
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Replying to @webdevMason @paulg
*Having* a negative externality, not *being* a negative externality. The point is that one component of the motivation to see popular things comes specifically from their popularity-qua-popularity, and not their quality-as-evidenced-by-their-popularity.
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Replying to @VitalikButerin @paulg
I just tend to assume that virality is adaptive, and that the apparent quality of e.g. Harry Potter even on sober reflection should be reassuring. If anything, I'd pick on the social status goods that *don't* gain value as they're made *more* accessible, e.g. Rolex watches
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Replying to @webdevMason @paulg
That is all true. But I do also feel like the "want to see X because other people have seen X regardless of quality just to know what they're talking about" thing is genuine; I've certainly had that urge myself.
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Replying to @VitalikButerin @paulg
I think it's real; I also think it's adaptive. If you want to know who to follow on twitter, graphing your follows' follows isn't a bad idea. You're not solving the search problem by searching on quality, and quality isn't guaranteed, but you'll probably come close to 80/20ing it
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I wanna point out again that "things that are popular for being popular" looks very good against e.g. "things that are popular for being scarce" or "things that are popular because Glorious Leader says they are," and probably gets you closest to "...because they're actually good"
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Also — and I do think this is important — when your product gains value by virtue of being accessible, you want accessibility. To some extent, one might expect piracy not because it subverts this process, but because it's integral to it.
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Replying to @webdevMason @paulg
That I agree with. I'm probably a bit more pessimistic on how good an algorithm "watching popular-for-being popular stuff" is, eg. I think there's lots of high-quality 30-year-old stuff that the Mass Culture Popularity Machine doesn't promote.
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It's also possible that my model of social incentives is wrong, and there's actually a strong countervailing pressure to see high-quality stuff other people have *not* seen because you're more interesting that way.
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fwiw, I've filled a chapel in Oakland with ducks and giant silkmoths, and one of many takeaways is that people are more interested in others' novelty-seeking than one might initially assume. I think social media is actually creating orders of magnitude more small ponds to swim in
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