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    1. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason Jan 17
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      Not long ago, "murderers and child rapists should have to live with what they've done" was considered a perfectly reasonable defense of an abolitionist position on the death penalty. It's interesting to notice the new pushback against "maximum punishment" for even the worst crime https://twitter.com/Vanessa_ABee/status/1218019316454563840 …

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    2. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason Jan 17
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      I don't have a firm personal position on the death penalty, but I suspect that the recent cultural shift has been toward perceiving *all* crime as a demonstration of "lack of privilege" or systemic injustice, and that's just clearly not always the case

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    3. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason Jan 17
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      Honestly... I don't know if there are great social benefits to societal rage, but I honestly can't muster a lot of concern about the folks who want to see killers who kill for sexual gratification or money punished in the worst way

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    4. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason Jan 17
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      I *am* genuinely concerned by people who think neither the death penalty nor life imprisonment w/o the possibility of parole should be on the table. Even if a serial child killer *can* be "rehabilitated," exactly how much risk are the most vulnerable families expected to bear?

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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason Jan 17
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      It never occurred to me that one day I might see blanket-case arguments against permanent incarceration, but I guess this is the fruit that intratribal signal gaming bears. "How woke am I? So woke that not even dead kids can slow *this* woke roll!"

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        1. KO_Sulli‏ @KO_Sulli Jan 17
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          The Woking Dead?

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        2. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason Jan 17
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          "there's countries," "check their stats" 🤔

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        2. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin Jan 17
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          Prisons seem really clearly bad from all angles. They don't rehabilitate effectively, they do ruin lives, and even for the goal of "remove the criminal from society so they can't do harm" they're a really expensive way of doing that. They're also not Lindy!

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        3. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin Jan 17
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          Ancient punishments that I know of included fines, banishment, corporal punishment, and execution. These all seem more humane than prison!

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          lost a close family member to violent crime.lost extremely close family members to a drunk driver. In the former I spoke for life w/out parole and against the death penalty. I oppose state sponsored personal vengeance:neither closure nor cathartic. In the latter to punish&rehab

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          I think it's an "in principle versus in practice" confusion. In principle, if a person really can be rehabilitated i think they *should* be. In practice given the methods available, people aren't quite malleable enough to provide the assurance you'd need for extreme cases.

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        2. Justin Poirier‏ @justinpoir Jan 18
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          I do wonder what happens if we extend life significantly more. At what point do we decide life in prison would be too long? Suddenly "consecutive life sentences" takes on a different meaning. I suspect the main point of divide however is not on the worst offenders but the edges.

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        3. Justin Poirier‏ @justinpoir Jan 18
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          There are plenty of perfectly good reasons to oppose the death penalty anyways, such as that we've definitely murdered innocent people.

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