Who has a billion dollars? Your net worth is what someone is willing to pay for what you have, whether you've sold it or not. If a famous painter paints a new portrait, the value he's created wasn't taken from anyone. Nor if an entrepreneur creates a much-loved product.https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/1206656298625966081 …
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Replying to @webdevMason
You've failed to properly steel man the argument for no billionaires. The better argument is thus: those "much-loved products" are not created solely by entrepreneurs, but instead co-created by entrepreneurs & society. Bezos would likely be broke if he was born in Somalia.
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Replying to @harryh
It seems like you're trying to equate "billionaires are fine" with "nobody should have to pay tax," which is a perennial leap that still makes absolutely no sense.
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Replying to @webdevMason
I am not. The "no billionaires" argument is just an argument that billionaires should pay a very large amount in taxes due to the very large portion of the wealth creation being due to the foundations society creates for the billionaires to operate in.
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Replying to @harryh
The idea that a suitable purpose of tax is to generate revenue for services utilized by the wealthy and poor alike is fundamentally different from the idea that a suitable purpose of tax is to implement a functional cap on wealth. You're doing a motte and bailey move here.
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Replying to @webdevMason
I'm arguing that the vast majority of the wealth controlled by billionaires wasn't created by themselves but instead by society. Thus society is entitled to the money to spend on whatever it deems most useful.
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Replying to @harryh @webdevMason
Like so: 1) Bezos would likely be broke if he was born in Somalia. 2) The US, even without Bezos, would still likely have a massive online retailer worth hundreds of billions. Therefore: Bezos didn't create Amazon. The United States did.
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Replying to @harryh
Do you... think *you* wouldn't be broke if you were born in Somalia? Do you think the US is entitled to the delta between your earning potential in Somalia and your earnings today? Do you believe you've ever created something that the United States didn't actually create?
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Replying to @webdevMason
(1/2) So yes: clearly I (and you, and Bezos) shouldn't get zero. How things are divvied up by co-creators is always a negotiation. Those arguing for higher taxes are just negotiating for a bigger cut of the spoils. No different from the canvas stretcher demanding a raise.
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Motte and bailey. I'm not playing, sorry.
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