I'm picking on progressives with this example because it's the one I've been thinking about recently. I don't think typical conservatives are any more thoughtful re: efficacy or any more likely to avoid having their attention manipulated by availability
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Replying to @webdevMason @RojasGorky
Perhaps my problem here is my own inability to conceive of a better use of people's attention than campaigning, which requires a focal point (an individual with real power) to attempt to influence.
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I could just be doing the contrarian thing of constructing reasons for why lazy imitation is actually rational. I might also be insulting the intelligence of the campaigners by assuming they're better off following the herd than trying to think of their own personal strategy.
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Replying to @rob_knight @RojasGorky
Some of your replies suggest you think this is a conscious strategy rather than an unconscious failure to notice the range of possible moves, & some seem to contradict that. The latter is my entire claim, so ambiguity there probably means we're completely talking past each other
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Replying to @webdevMason @RojasGorky
Thanks, that does clarify it a lot. My position is definitely more ambiguous, so at least I managed to communicate that!
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I was starting from the assumption of something like "rational ignorance", which doesn't map neatly on to the dichotomy of conscious strategy vs unconscious failure.https://www.cato-unbound.org/2013/10/22/ilya-somin/why-most-political-ignorance-rational-why-it-matters-reply-jeffrey-friedman …
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Replying to @rob_knight @RojasGorky
I'm getting the impression that you sort of had a point orthogonal to the one I was making that you're wanting to champion here, and the reason I'm failing to understand you is that I've been assuming you were replying to me.
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I don't *think* I agree with you, but it's possible that I do if I back up and assume you're not making a point about how minds work
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Replying to @webdevMason @RojasGorky
I am also puzzled, in that I agree with your observation (that much political activity is unconsidered), but I'm not sure that it's possible to do much better than this, and I think the latter is where the real disagreement is.
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Replying to @rob_knight @RojasGorky
I do disagree with that, but I don't consider it neary as interesting or personally important. "Don't worry, a philosophical zombie would do exactly as you're doing" implies that I don't particularly care about being alive in my own mind.
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Again, I think this points to you assuming something like "people could choose to do differently if they had some reason to," and my point is that I don't think they can. If you simply don't see something, you can't choose to see it. The ignorance is up one level.
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Replying to @webdevMason @RojasGorky
Oh, ok! I had taken you to be referring to garden-variety "not worth investing energy in having original thoughts about this" kinds of ignorance, where it makes sense to outsource your knowledge discovery to society at large.
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I got hung up on the original example because to me it looks like the crowd *successfully* orienting to the different power structures inside FB as compared to S&W, where so long as we can be confident that *someone* thought about it, most people don't have to.
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