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    1. Rob Knight‏ @rob_knight 24 Nov 2019
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      To me, it looks like personal criticism of Zuckerberg as a means of influencing Facebook is effective. It's not very pleasant, but it seems like it works, and that's why people do it.

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    2. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 24 Nov 2019
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      I think if you asked most progressives to list every means of influencing gun policy they could think of, virtually none of them would mention pressuring CEOs. But it you asked "Should gun-maker CEOs be held accountable for gun deaths?" they would overwhelmingly respond "yes."

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    3. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 24 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @webdevMason @rob_knight @RojasGorky

      On the flipside, I don't think most progressives think criticising Zuckerberg is at all effective at influencing the trajectory of FB, and I don't think they really even know how they'd want Facebook to change. "Breaking it up" sounds fine, though they don't know what that means.

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    4. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 24 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @webdevMason @rob_knight @RojasGorky

      I'm picking on progressives with this example because it's the one I've been thinking about recently. I don't think typical conservatives are any more thoughtful re: efficacy or any more likely to avoid having their attention manipulated by availability

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    5. Rob Knight‏ @rob_knight 24 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @webdevMason @RojasGorky

      Perhaps my problem here is my own inability to conceive of a better use of people's attention than campaigning, which requires a focal point (an individual with real power) to attempt to influence.

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    6. Rob Knight‏ @rob_knight 24 Nov 2019
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      I could just be doing the contrarian thing of constructing reasons for why lazy imitation is actually rational. I might also be insulting the intelligence of the campaigners by assuming they're better off following the herd than trying to think of their own personal strategy.

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    7. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 24 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @rob_knight @RojasGorky

      Some of your replies suggest you think this is a conscious strategy rather than an unconscious failure to notice the range of possible moves, & some seem to contradict that. The latter is my entire claim, so ambiguity there probably means we're completely talking past each other

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    8. Rob Knight‏ @rob_knight 24 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @webdevMason @RojasGorky

      Thanks, that does clarify it a lot. My position is definitely more ambiguous, so at least I managed to communicate that!

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    9. Rob Knight‏ @rob_knight 24 Nov 2019
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      I was starting from the assumption of something like "rational ignorance", which doesn't map neatly on to the dichotomy of conscious strategy vs unconscious failure.https://www.cato-unbound.org/2013/10/22/ilya-somin/why-most-political-ignorance-rational-why-it-matters-reply-jeffrey-friedman …

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    10. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 24 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @rob_knight @RojasGorky

      I'm getting the impression that you sort of had a point orthogonal to the one I was making that you're wanting to champion here, and the reason I'm failing to understand you is that I've been assuming you were replying to me.

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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 24 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @webdevMason @rob_knight @RojasGorky

      I don't *think* I agree with you, but it's possible that I do if I back up and assume you're not making a point about how minds work

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        2. Rob Knight‏ @rob_knight 24 Nov 2019
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          I am also puzzled, in that I agree with your observation (that much political activity is unconsidered), but I'm not sure that it's possible to do much better than this, and I think the latter is where the real disagreement is.

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        3. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 24 Nov 2019
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          Replying to @rob_knight @RojasGorky

          I do disagree with that, but I don't consider it neary as interesting or personally important. "Don't worry, a philosophical zombie would do exactly as you're doing" implies that I don't particularly care about being alive in my own mind.

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