In any group, the percentage of people doing from-first-principles thinking about the group activity is very small. It doesn’t prove anything special in this case.
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There's a process of discovery, where people try to target certain companies, industries etc. for criticism, and recruit others to help them. People have tried this with the gun industry.
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But do you go after the CEO of Smith & Wesson? CEO of the private equity company that happened to own them at the time, or their current parent co.? But CEO has little influence, so maybe the board? Major shareholders? *Their* CEOs? (infinite regress begins)
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Maybe the manufacturer is the wrong place to attack. Maybe the retailers? The local gun shop guy? Some success has been had with persuading certain mainstream-but-gun-adjacent stores reducing gun availability.
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Dick's Sporting Goods is a good example. But it's worth noting that their Chairman and CEO is the founder's son.https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dicks-sporting-goods-to-stop-selling-guns-in-125-stores/ …
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Replying to @rob_knight @RojasGorky
I don't think you understood my point, but I can't lay it out any clearer. You're arguing over whether orange is a good color for clothing, and I'm trying to make a point about how many people seem to be unknowingly colorblind.
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Replying to @webdevMason @RojasGorky
I took your point to be that people have some desire to change both FB and S&W, but they only engage in personal criticism of FB's CEO and not that of S&W, and they are unreflective about why this might be.
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And I agree with this, as far as it goes. But I think this is evidence that people are copying effective strategies for exercising influence from each other, not that they're stuck in a blind-spot.
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Replying to @rob_knight @RojasGorky
Could not possibly disagree with this more, and if you find your models about mass political behavior breaking on reality I think this belief is an excellent place to look for an explanation
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Replying to @webdevMason @RojasGorky
To me, it looks like personal criticism of Zuckerberg as a means of influencing Facebook is effective. It's not very pleasant, but it seems like it works, and that's why people do it.
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I think if you asked most progressives to list every means of influencing gun policy they could think of, virtually none of them would mention pressuring CEOs. But it you asked "Should gun-maker CEOs be held accountable for gun deaths?" they would overwhelmingly respond "yes."
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On the flipside, I don't think most progressives think criticising Zuckerberg is at all effective at influencing the trajectory of FB, and I don't think they really even know how they'd want Facebook to change. "Breaking it up" sounds fine, though they don't know what that means.
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I'm picking on progressives with this example because it's the one I've been thinking about recently. I don't think typical conservatives are any more thoughtful re: efficacy or any more likely to avoid having their attention manipulated by availability
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