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    1. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @mykola @ZarAlexander @kaleidic

      I just think — and believe I've observed — that people have a very hard time discerning between "I think you're incredibly wrong" and "I think you're arguing in bad faith."

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    2. a portrait of the autist as a 30-something‏ @mykola 10 Oct 2019
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      I agree with you, it’s hard to know for sure. But is *amplifying* every speech act really the best we can do in response? Especially when the bad faith is driving such harmful and hateful agendas?

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    3. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @mykola @ZarAlexander @kaleidic

      I don't conflate enabling the use of a platform with amplification of user messages

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    4. a portrait of the autist as a 30-something‏ @mykola 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @webdevMason @ZarAlexander @kaleidic

      But what is the platform doing if not literally that?

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    5. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @mykola @ZarAlexander @kaleidic

      Me not punching your throat out is not akin to me amplifying your verbal utterances

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    6. a portrait of the autist as a 30-something‏ @mykola 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @webdevMason @ZarAlexander @kaleidic

      Twitter is not the state of nature, though. “Publishing a speech act in a way that amplifies it to potentially millions of humans” is hardly the same kind of thing as “not punching me in the throat”, right? Surely we can agree here? Twitter provides an active service.

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    7. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @mykola @ZarAlexander @kaleidic

      Yeah, and if they wanted to they could decide to become solely a platform for one political party, or to ban all vegetarians, or whatever. I think it'd be a travesty if they did, but your mileage will vary.

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    8. a portrait of the autist as a 30-something‏ @mykola 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @webdevMason @ZarAlexander @kaleidic

      Again, agreed! But in theory, abuse is already banned. In practice, most abuse gets through just fine if it avoids a few keywords. This is not an argument about whether abuse should be banned, it’s about who gets to define abuse, right?

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    9. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @mykola @ZarAlexander @kaleidic

      Also about which ideas, opinions, criticisms, or other statements are *inherently* abusive

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    10. a portrait of the autist as a 30-something‏ @mykola 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @webdevMason @ZarAlexander @kaleidic

      Abuse is a social phenomenon, it exists as a relation across a socially-defined space and its presentation shifts constantly over time. What does it mean for an action to be inherently abusive? How can that be epistemologically grounded? 🤔

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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @mykola @ZarAlexander @kaleidic

      If you and I disagree about what constitutes abuse, is it my network that sets the standard, or yours?

      8:46 PM - 10 Oct 2019
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        2. Alexander Klarname Cadeyrn‏ @ZarAlexander 10 Oct 2019
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          Replying to @webdevMason @mykola @kaleidic

          While you did switch to his perspective on the issue, you also limited the available options to just two. And probably not options that myk would have gone with to begin with. This is the "none can be trusted with this responsibility"-road. It also leads to no change.

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        3. Alexander Klarname Cadeyrn‏ @ZarAlexander 10 Oct 2019
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          (and I somehow switched to cynical spectator / commenter mode. doesn't lead to anything beyond entertainment and maybe self-delusion about teaching the two of you something of value either)

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        1. a portrait of the autist as a 30-something‏ @mykola 10 Oct 2019
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          Replying to @webdevMason @ZarAlexander @kaleidic

          It’s relational. You and I each have our own definitions, and for our networks to interact we need to negotiate terms. It’s situational. So let’s focus on getting really good at that part, with clear rules and consequences for abuse, right?

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