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    1. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 10 Oct 2019
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      FYI people who bomb anything or anyone should go to jail, as should their co-conspirators. But I don't think nutcases should get to drive the bus re: acceptable speech just so we can convince ourselves we're safe from them

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    2. Alexander Klarname Cadeyrn‏ @ZarAlexander 10 Oct 2019
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      The tricky part is, someone claiming such things is neither directly calling for murder, nor technically conspirating with anyone. So they get away. Deplatforming them is essentially the only possible way to at least slow their impact down, although I cannot really say it...

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    3. Alexander Klarname Cadeyrn‏ @ZarAlexander 10 Oct 2019
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      ... works all that well. Actual application of libel/slander laws on the internet would be a good thing though, from my perspective. Like I said, there is a middle ground - I just don't think it is "let every nutjob have the microphone if the algorythms like them".

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    4. a portrait of the autist as a 30-something‏ @mykola 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @ZarAlexander @webdevMason @kaleidic

      Out of curiosity, @webdevMason, do you believe that there is such a thing as a speech act that can only cause harm to those who hear it? I’m thinking about stuff like targeted bad-faith propaganda, for instance - the expression of which is an act of violence to the listener?

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    5. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @mykola @ZarAlexander @kaleidic

      The definition of "violence" is not that unclear to me.

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    6. a portrait of the autist as a 30-something‏ @mykola 10 Oct 2019
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      So you don’t believe that nonphysical violence is possible?

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    7. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @mykola @ZarAlexander @kaleidic

      Criminal threats are possible, sure.

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    8. a portrait of the autist as a 30-something‏ @mykola 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @webdevMason @ZarAlexander @kaleidic

      But surely you agree that there’s such a thing as harmful words, right? You just don’t like the term violence there?

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    9. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @mykola @ZarAlexander @kaleidic

      I think virtually any strong opinion that turns out to be wrong has the potential to cause harm. I don't trust the sway of public opinion to identify them.

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    10. a portrait of the autist as a 30-something‏ @mykola 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @webdevMason @ZarAlexander @kaleidic

      what about intentionally bad faith “opinions”, though? At what point is it okay to say “you have lied and hurt people X times, so no, we’re not going to let you have this platform”? We can’t 100% automate detecting them but like. Why pretend to be fooled on principle?

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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @mykola @ZarAlexander @kaleidic

      I just think — and believe I've observed — that people have a very hard time discerning between "I think you're incredibly wrong" and "I think you're arguing in bad faith."

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        2. a portrait of the autist as a 30-something‏ @mykola 10 Oct 2019
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          I agree with you, it’s hard to know for sure. But is *amplifying* every speech act really the best we can do in response? Especially when the bad faith is driving such harmful and hateful agendas?

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        3. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 10 Oct 2019
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          Replying to @mykola @ZarAlexander @kaleidic

          I don't conflate enabling the use of a platform with amplification of user messages

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        1. Alexander Klarname Cadeyrn‏ @ZarAlexander 10 Oct 2019
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          Replying to @webdevMason @mykola @kaleidic

          I have to agree on that one. It fits my observation as well - behaving as if one is capable of mind-reading is a widespread issue and people are rather quick to assume intent.

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