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    1. Alexander Klarname Cadeyrn‏ @ZarAlexander 10 Oct 2019
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      The existance of fox news (or NBC or the BBC or whatever) is already a form of top-down control over information. How is for example getting someone fired from there worse than someone never having a voice there to begin with? Also: there is a place in between the extremes.

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    2. Alexander Klarname Cadeyrn‏ @ZarAlexander 10 Oct 2019
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      And to be completely honest, I do not believe that access to "information" about George Soros supposedly controlling the world and being the root of all evil for example is more valuable than the right not to be bombed just because you're working for him.

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    3. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @ZarAlexander @mykola @kaleidic

      FYI people who bomb anything or anyone should go to jail, as should their co-conspirators. But I don't think nutcases should get to drive the bus re: acceptable speech just so we can convince ourselves we're safe from them

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    4. Alexander Klarname Cadeyrn‏ @ZarAlexander 10 Oct 2019
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      The tricky part is, someone claiming such things is neither directly calling for murder, nor technically conspirating with anyone. So they get away. Deplatforming them is essentially the only possible way to at least slow their impact down, although I cannot really say it...

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    5. Alexander Klarname Cadeyrn‏ @ZarAlexander 10 Oct 2019
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      ... works all that well. Actual application of libel/slander laws on the internet would be a good thing though, from my perspective. Like I said, there is a middle ground - I just don't think it is "let every nutjob have the microphone if the algorythms like them".

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    6. a portrait of the autist as a 30-something‏ @mykola 10 Oct 2019
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      Out of curiosity, @webdevMason, do you believe that there is such a thing as a speech act that can only cause harm to those who hear it? I’m thinking about stuff like targeted bad-faith propaganda, for instance - the expression of which is an act of violence to the listener?

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    7. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @mykola @ZarAlexander @kaleidic

      The definition of "violence" is not that unclear to me.

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    8. a portrait of the autist as a 30-something‏ @mykola 10 Oct 2019
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      So you don’t believe that nonphysical violence is possible?

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    9. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @mykola @ZarAlexander @kaleidic

      Criminal threats are possible, sure.

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    10. a portrait of the autist as a 30-something‏ @mykola 10 Oct 2019
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      But surely you agree that there’s such a thing as harmful words, right? You just don’t like the term violence there?

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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @mykola @ZarAlexander @kaleidic

      I think virtually any strong opinion that turns out to be wrong has the potential to cause harm. I don't trust the sway of public opinion to identify them.

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        2. a portrait of the autist as a 30-something‏ @mykola 10 Oct 2019
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          what about intentionally bad faith “opinions”, though? At what point is it okay to say “you have lied and hurt people X times, so no, we’re not going to let you have this platform”? We can’t 100% automate detecting them but like. Why pretend to be fooled on principle?

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        3. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 10 Oct 2019
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          Replying to @mykola @ZarAlexander @kaleidic

          I just think — and believe I've observed — that people have a very hard time discerning between "I think you're incredibly wrong" and "I think you're arguing in bad faith."

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        2. Alexander Klarname Cadeyrn‏ @ZarAlexander 10 Oct 2019
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          But you do trust algorithms based on profitability to make the call which one should be heard? A selection already exists. It is based on cashflow-potential for the platform corporations.

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        3. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 10 Oct 2019
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          Replying to @ZarAlexander @mykola @kaleidic

          Profitability comes in weighing the desire of an audience to hear their preferred speaker vs. the desire of those opposed to throw their weight against the speech being permitted. I don't think this is a healthy dynamic, which is why I think we need universal ground rules

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