I'm often a pedestrian, and I gotta say: yes, a distracted or aggressive driver can kill ya, but it seems to me that a distracted or aggressive cyclist can still fuck you up pretty badly, and as a percentage by vehicle type I'm noticing a lot more of the latter lately
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Because there is no infrastructure for cyclists, they are forced into urban design that heavily favors cars, which are FAR more dangerous. If they had dedicated rights of way you wouldn't have that problem.
@BrooklynSpoke help me out here
Agree 100%, and I'm extremely supportive of better bike infrastructure, but this doesn't justify cruising through crosswalks on a red light or speeding around on urban sidewalks, esp. where there's low visibility at corners. This really is entitled behavior.
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But this dangerous environment is a product of car centric design, don’t you think? They are on sidewalks because cars frequently kill them on roads. There is low visibility at corners because of parked cars blocking sight lines.
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Yes, cyclists and pedestrians alike are at great risk from reckless drivers. But no, cars don't excuse a cyclist who speeds down a sidewalk where a Starbucks is blocking visibility for perpendicular traffic, or a road cyclist who runs a red and plows through the crosswalk.
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The “safety-conscious “ cyclists, as you call them, are deterred by cars, not by other bikes. I count myself as one of those ppl who would love to ride but don’t want to be hit by a two-ton suv speeding down a city street
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Yes. You seem to really want to believe that I'm pro-car and anti-bike when I think I've been extremely clear that I just don't want to be struck by either of them.
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IMO, part of the problem is that a dangerous environment dissuades a lot of safety-conscious cyclists, increasing the % on urban streets who aren't averse to risk. If you're behaving recklessly, better that you're on a bike than in a car, but that doesn't justify the recklessness
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Better bike infrastructure wouldn’t matter one bit; cyclists don’t respect infrastructure. They alternate at will between using car and pedestrian rights-of-way. To avoid them, you must always assume that they’ll do whatever is expedient for them in the moment.
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