But, if you -> can't go any deeper than that, you're just chanting doctrine. <-
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Replying to @RojasGorky @webdevMason
Isn't reaching consensus and pushing that knowledge out to the general population sort of the point? Not everyone can go deeper but they can still benefit from truths that others have labored deeper on.
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The point is to understand how the consensus came to be, before telling it to others.
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Replying to @oldman_tweet @H_K_B and
Is there a consensus that the earth is round? Or are we arguing for a flat earth?
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Replying to @BugGenerator @H_K_B and
Do you actually believe that it's irrelevant how the consensus around a spherical Earth came to be accepted, or are you just trolling? Serious question
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Replying to @webdevMason @H_K_B and
I’m actually skeptical of the “cholesterol consensus”, as an example. It just seems people are throwing out all science nowadays, and using “skepticism” as an excuse
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Replying to @BugGenerator @H_K_B and
Is it not the case, then, that you can evaluate the means by which a consensus was reached on the shape of our planet and the means by which consensus was reached on various nutritional claims, and conclude — accepting fallibility, ofc — that one is stronger than the other?
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Replying to @webdevMason @H_K_B and
I think we both agree that we should question consensus and appeals to authority. Sadly it seems that choosing what to question will always be guided by our beliefs and prejudices, lower down the stack so to speak. And so it leads to more division. We are still just apes.
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Replying to @BugGenerator @webdevMason and
And it seems this post is a jab at one specific consensus that is a very partisan issue. Question - if there is a small chance that rapid climate change will kill us all, do we act now out of caution, or wait for 100% certainty that it will definitely kill us all before we act?
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Replying to @ROVER__ONE @BugGenerator and
Does it? Or did you just see the word "consensus," make a whole host of assumptions, and begin to short-circuit in precisely the manner I'm trying to get people to avoid?
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FWIW, I think there's a much greater than "small" chance that substantial climate change would have an absolutely devastating impact on humanity, but I'm appalled by the state of the conversation, and I think the result is likely to be a total inability to tackle it effectively.
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Replying to @webdevMason @BugGenerator and
Glad we are on the same page then. But what I mean is that 'consensus' had become a dirty word, a signifier of the climate partisan debate. So when people invoke the 'consensus is bullshit' line, you are right, I automatically assume they are climate deniers...
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