Just got caught by Mormon missionaries to Oakland. Honestly cannot find a harsh word for these folks. "You guys nailed it on architecture."
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lengthy conversation to be had here on what each of us means exactly by “quality”

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Can we at least agree that there are some things that could feasibly be taught by outsiders that have broadly good effects, others that have broadly bad effects, and that this isn't contingent on nation of origin?
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Like, FFS, I'm an atheist playing angel's advocate here. I don't want to, please let me stop by ceding that we like it when kids can read, even if foreign nationals teach them, and don't like it when foreign nationals teach shitty stuff. This isn't that hard
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Hm, we may be talking last each other on those then, bc I agree with both those statements. I wasn’t aware you thought they were at issue.
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