Some excerpts — Bret: I believe I've heard what you have to say. I don't believe you've heard me. Okay? Those emails do not say what you think they said. Student: Then why is there this pervasive feeling on campus that they do?
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This dialogue between @BretWeinstein and students at Evergreen State is just... horrifying. This is what happens when one party is trying desperately to have a conversation and the other party is intent on using language as indiscriminate weaponryhttps://youtu.be/AOht7EXA8hs?t=316 …
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Student: Well, [???]. Let society fall. Bret: Well, let society fall — you can't have society fall on a world with 400 nuclear reactors that have to be managed by somebody every day of every week. Society has to deal with its shit, no question. But it can't come apart.
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Student: Every single time you said something, you had students, you had faculty of color, women, women faculty tell you maybe you're wrong. Right? So why did you continue? Bret: Well, first of all, I don't think that's how right and wrong works.
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Bret: Right and wrong are a matter of reason and logic, and nobody has a claim on these Student: And I think that's the biggest problem that you're having. You're seeing this logic purely in a [...] reasoning way, as a scientist. That's legit. But we are on a liberal arts campus
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Bret: Whether my words have a consequence that does harm I can't control. I do know that the intent is not the one that has been read into those emails. Student: Keep your words away! Then stop with the words!
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Student: Why didn't you just shut the fuck up? Bret: [...] I do not believe that we can get to rational answers if there is no diversity of opinion. [...] A system to penalize those with different opinions has emerged, so that it appears that we have consensus — which we don't.
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Student with microphone: You all don't give this guy attention, it's what he wants. Bret: We were having a good conversation! ... Other student: It doesn't matter. Don't talk to him, he's just gonna get fired anyways.
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Bret: My point is, you keep telling me that I need to understand something about other populations — Student: No! That's not what I said! I said you need to stop demanding that everybody use logic and reason and white forms of knowledge to fucking prove yourself to the world!
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A few points: 1) I don’t find the student behavior horrifying, not because they are paragons of wisdom, but because this seems like typical behavior among a subset of enthusiastic college students throughout history.
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2) Weinstein was well-intentioned and patient given the circumstances.
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