I swear to god, if some species literally waterboarded infant rabbits in the course of its reproductive cycle there'd be an environmentalist to pop up and worry about The Ecosystem every time anyone was like "I think we should probably get rid of the baby bunny waterboarders."
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Honestly, there's such a massive gap between the very idea that "natural" or "unnatural" are important moral categories and my own perspective on morality that we're probably not going to come close to seeing eye-to-eye on this one
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Intra-species, no. Obviously not. But then again, different species are already different enough on this. In terms of nature as a whole? Inter-species? Not if you define the object towards which the moral obligation is directed as "nature".
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You can define the object of moral obligation as "this specific animal", or even "this specific species", and, depending on the circumstances, that works. "Nature" as a whole? No, that doesn't work.
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@LightningShade0 your phrasing was not crappy; pretty clear and straightforward argument. Mason is the one that doesn't seem to get it. Case in point: shutting down your argument - not with a counter-argument - but with a "are you seriously suggesting that...". Not a good look.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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