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    1. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 18 Jul 2019
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      I think this is a common misreading of at least the core IDW, who very sincerely believe that we are not capable of doing a true, effective, good-faith search of solution space for problems like climate change & inequality under the conditions created & maintained by SJW culture https://twitter.com/ne0liberal/status/1149379249675087875 …

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    2. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 18 Jul 2019
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      I think to understand what these folks are trying to do it is critical to understand that they DON'T think the conversations on these issues that *must* happen are currently possible, not just in the public sphere but within the institutions we're trusting to give us solutions

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    3. David McDougall‏ @dmcdougall 18 Jul 2019
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      I don’t want to speak for @neoliberal, but I read their take as ‘we do not share this fundamental assumption about what discourse is required to solve our world’s large-scale problems’

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    4. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 18 Jul 2019
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      I'm just not sure the assumption's implied. And if it is, "WHY???" is a little disingenuous

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    5. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 18 Jul 2019
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      Replying to @webdevMason @dmcdougall @neoliberal

      Like, treating this as a problem of poor priorities makes absolutely zero sense if you understand the model that's generating the IDW

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    6. David McDougall‏ @dmcdougall 18 Jul 2019
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      My model of the good faith anti-IDW position is, broadly, ‘we understand the model, and disagree with the fundamental starting point,’ but even good-faith discourse (on all sides!) tends to interrogate outputs rather than models while@leaving lots of assumptions unspoken

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    7. David McDougall‏ @dmcdougall 18 Jul 2019
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      Replying to @dmcdougall @webdevMason @neoliberal

      I’d also love to see anyone from the IDW consider the SJW position *in its strengths*, but I’ve yet to encounter it

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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 18 Jul 2019
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      Replying to @dmcdougall @neoliberal

      I don't think they think the SJW *framing* has many uncomplicated strengths — I have heard people like Eric and Sam talk about the potential value of e.g. "safe spaces," but point out that they find them far too costly. I don't know if I can do better than that myself

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        2. David McDougall‏ @dmcdougall 18 Jul 2019
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          Across this ideological divide - or similar ones - the best I expect is ‘complicated strengths, not worth the cost.’ Arguments from both ‘sides’ tend to focus on outputs and speak to themselves rather than seeking common ground.

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        3. David McDougall‏ @dmcdougall 18 Jul 2019
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          the same is true of anti-IDW arguments! Both sides of this argument are fundamentally based in mostly-irreconcilable understandings of the trade offs involved in building a society according to Principle A vs Principle B

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