Usually, "dying" people are happy when they leave us. It doesn’t say anything about our immortality.
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Replying to @RJsnda
If a person is healthy, happy, and with the faculties they value in themselves, we don't expect them to kill themselves or welcome death. When they're in pain, suffering terrible health, and losing themselves, the root of the problem is not that they are not dead.
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I can understand it. I am just saying that dying people could be, or more precisely, they “look” happy. I saw hundreds of them...
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Replying to @RJsnda
If someone looked happy while half their brain were destroyed, I would still find it utterly horrifying. If someone looks happy while the whole of their brain is destroyed...
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Happiness is not related only to our physical health.
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Replying to @webdevMason @RJsnda
In which two individuals with opposite (present vs absent) horror-responses to death debate which of their perceptions corresponds to the essence of the phenomenon. That is, the answer is neither. Death isn’t horrifying or unhorrifying; *you* are horrified or unhorrified by it.
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Also, it seems to me that there’s a good evolutionary reason for that perception to change over the course of a person’s life. In the young, evolutionary pressure sculpts a horror at death into the psyche. In the old, that pressure is absent.
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Replying to @acapellascience @RJsnda
This is certainly not true of most interesting elderly people, nor is it the case that there aren't plenty of young people happy to share especially stupid platitudes about death to look mid-tier wise at dinner parties.
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Ask anyone of any age how many of the items that fall into the category "things worse than death" are just sort of fine, and they'll realize very quickly that the poetic point-scoring doesn't stand up to much of an interrogation at all. "Who should we encourage to die?" etc.
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Evolutionary explanations are useful on the descriptive layer. When kids gang up to bully the weakest of them, they're doing something done across many species. "Whether bullying a weak child is fun or awful is a matter of perspective from within the system" is certainly *a* take
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Whether one's visceral sense of horror toward death wanes due to evolutionary pressures to cede resources, I do not know. I DO know that the base reality *this* brain mapped via reasoning finds both social torturing of children & permanently destroying a human mind *horrifying.*
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Replying to @webdevMason @RJsnda
I also don’t know if there’s research on this, but anecdotally I certainly know more old people than young who say “I’ve seen enough, I’d be willing to go now.” Obviously hard to disentangle from societal messaging, loss of quality of life etc.
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