(Reader note: not all trans people are infertile, even after years of treatment with cross-sex hormones. But if you don't go through puberty, your gametes do not mature, and we currently have no reproductive tech that can do anything with immature gametes.)
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Replying to @webdevMason
I think nearly all trans kids have mature gametes by the time they start blockers or cross-sex hormones? Gametes mature early, thus how some ten-year-olds can get pregnant. Definitely agree we should automatically preserve gametes as part of the standard of care for trans kids.
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Replying to @KelseyTuoc
Nope, neither males nor females produce mature gametes sans puberty. Some children become pregnant at age 10 because some children go through puberty prior to age 10.
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Replying to @webdevMason
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28161526 says that 91% of trans girls and 96% of trans boys in their sample had gametes mature enough for preservation.
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Replying to @KelseyTuoc
"Five children were prepubertal, no hormone therapy was considered, and they were therefore excluded." It sounds like their inclusion criteria excluded children who had not gone through puberty.
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Replying to @webdevMason
I parsed that as their criteria excluded children for whom hormone therapy was not being considered. If hormone therapy is not considered until puberty has begun, and most kids at the stage where hormone therapy is considered have mature gametes, then that's the pop we care about
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Replying to @KelseyTuoc @webdevMason
My understanding is that the current standard of care involves letting puberty start a little, because some prepubescent dysphoria desists when puberty begins, and then aggressive treatment if the dysphoria does not desist. That means the treated pop is not prepubescent.
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Replying to @KelseyTuoc @webdevMason
I doubt we disagree on much here. Treatment for trans adolescents should likely start after the onset of puberty, to be sure they're not in the pop that desists when puberty begins. But if they're not, they're very unlikely to later desist and benefit from early transition.
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Replying to @KelseyTuoc @webdevMason
At that stage most of them have mature gametes but, for the ones who don't, it's plausibly worth waiting until they do, and gamete preservation should be the default (though I do think kids should have the right to refuse).
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Replying to @KelseyTuoc
I have *way* fewer concerns about kids who go through enough of a natural puberty to develop reproductive function & get counseling on preservation options. It's my understanding that some kids do start HT straight off of blockers administered prior to that point.
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I take a pretty libertarian approach to all of this, and despite being *super* passionate about fertility preservation I'm not even sure I'd advocate mandatory counseling. But I really hope these kids and their families are being encouraged to think about it
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Replying to @webdevMason @KelseyTuoc
When I was researching this myself, I found it very difficult to find info from trans advocacy orgs (or anyone else) about fertility after transition. I could find almost nothing on rates of success w/ consideration for factors pertaining to transition. This *really* bugs me
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