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    1. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 4 Jul 2019
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      There’s an understanding of “game” by which *all* conflicts, from a couple’s mild arguments to world wars, are games. If there are incentives, a set of available moves, and actors to make them, you have a game. These can include *actual* violence.

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    2. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 4 Jul 2019
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      And there’s the colloquial understanding of “game,” which rests on a much tighter set of mutually-understood rules, a clear group of players distinct from non-players, and transparent win/loss conditions. These can include *simulated* violence (e.g. LARPing, contact sports).

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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️ Retweeted Geoffrey Miller

      Antifa is playing a game by the 1st standard & not clearly playing a game by the 2nd. I enjoyed @primalpoly & @jmrphy’s interview, but I think it’s irresponsible to call this a game, introduce scattered elements of a colloquial “game” & leave it at that.https://twitter.com/primalpoly/status/1145802255871856640 …

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      For some perspective on Portland and the crazed attacks on journalist @MrAndyNgo -- here's my full interview with political scientist (and sometime antifa supporter) @jmrphy about the psychology of antifa and the excesses of the Far Left protest subculture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHdKxRAVrHA …
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    4. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 4 Jul 2019
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      I DON’T think it’s wise to directly compare Antifa to LARPing, because it may give the impression that this “game” is bounded by a rule set that precludes killing. I don’t think Antifa & the similar groups they oppose have a group-level understanding of when the game should stop.

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    5. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 4 Jul 2019
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      …but I DO think it’s wise to think about this in terms of game theory, to try to understand the meta-level rewards of battles that are clearly pointless on the object level.

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    6. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 4 Jul 2019
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      To Antifa, Andy Ngo is an enemy, unique to all other journalists. It seems to me that he actually angers Antifa *more* than their stated targets. There’s an obvious reason for this. The meta-level rewards of pointless battles disappear when the pointlessness is made apparent.

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    7. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 4 Jul 2019
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      There's a real sense in which the true enemy of Antifa in Andy Ngo, in the same sense that the true enemy of the Green Bay Packers is the Brain Injury Research Institute. Antifa is not threatened by fascists; it NEEDS fascists. It is threatened by a narrative that doesn't need it

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    8. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 4 Jul 2019
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      On the object level, I don’t think we have anything that should be understood as a game, in the colloquial sense. We have a self-selected assortment of masked people entering the public with weapons and making their own individual judgments about who to hit and how hard.

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    9. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 4 Jul 2019
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      On the meta level, I think we have a group-constructed fantasy where good & evil are defined on the basis of what’s available to score on & where telling stories about taking or throwing punches during planned events translates to points. *This* is a game, a profoundly stupid one

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    10. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 4 Jul 2019
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      Andy Ngo didn't threaten anyone physically & everyone knows it. What he threatened were the stories upon which these losers do their point-scoring. Within the meta-level game, this MUST be compressed to "Andy is a bad guy." Acknowledging the game would turn its prizes into dust.

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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 4 Jul 2019
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      I suspect that Antifa is largely fine with the presence of journalists who *take them seriously* whether they write favorably or not. The problem with Andy isn't that he thinks they're "the bad guys," it's that he portrays them as foolish and reckless, whatever their intent.

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          Have antifa ever attempted to engage in a debate with ngo? If not, I think it’s pretty obvious that they’re utterly foolish and reckless

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        3. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 4 Jul 2019
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          I mean this seriously: have Antifa engaged anyone in debate? Their key premise is that the world is infected with fascists, that these people are extremely dangerous & they can identify them. This is generally held as self-evident, and only a fascist would deny it.

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        1. Sebastian Hattam‏ @SebastianHattam 4 Jul 2019
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          I agree, although I think people can overthink it. These people are thugs. Understanding the psychology of moblike orcs is only so useful.

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        1. Frank N‏ @electechfn 4 Jul 2019
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          Well it certainly won't improve now.

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          I would argue 'they' see it as a game. REAL Nazis (depressing I have to make that clear) used to play games with Jews amongst their soldier friends that would be considered war crimes now. Yet in their own compartmentalized minds they were still games.

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