Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️

I really don't believe that Jordan Peterson ever intends to deceive, though he may be wrong and certainly hyperbolic. I don't think there's ever been any hesitation within the IDW to talk openly about disagreement. There's a lot of it.

I don't know whether JP intends to deceive or not, but I don't know that about the media either. The disagreement happens over safe issues", not over the ones that define the IDW. For example many of JP's claims about C-16 were wildly exaggerated, no criticism as of yet from IDW.

(That I know of, if you have something please link it to me)

I don't know the details, and I think I'm going to have to tap out... I really can't come up with more ways to say that I'm not interested in playing the object-level game with you. At this point, I think you may be doing this purposefully and I don't appreciate it.

Please do, but I also find it a bit disingenuous to post one screenshot, claim that to be a meta-level phenomenon and then just discount everything on the other side, even if there are plenty of examples for it.

You're welcome to cut reality along different joints from me. You're welcome to attribute whatever you like to me. I'm not going to play a game I don't want to play with you.

FWIW... I never claimed the hat was a "meta level phenomenon." It's something we can talk about on the meta level *or* the object level. I wasn't discounting "the other side," because I never disagreed with you re: the ubiquity of the object-level occurrence of tribal signaling.

I'm deeply frustrated with my own inability to communicate why I'm trying to keep these layers discrete. It's incredibly difficult to have these conversations as soon as I'm laying out a case for or against Dave Rubin, social harms caused by C-16, or pink hair, that convo is done