Mason 🏃‍♂️✂️ on Twitter: "To police the "alternative media" just as much is to acknowledge that /u/50Shades is functionally equivalent to the New York Times, which is something I don't think any of the IDW folks are comfortable doing… https://t.co/o3z9Zkwjd3"

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Mason ‏ @webdevMason 29 Jun 2019

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Share the screencap.

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Tobias Wirtz‏ @_w0bi 29 Jun 2019

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I don't know, just the first thing that came to mind. There's thousands of these SJW cringe compilations where people try to make all feminists or leftists in general look like a bunch of loonies and they've largely succeeded.pic.twitter.com/2QPMbE4o6n

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Mason ‏ @webdevMason 29 Jun 2019

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The claim is not that stereotyping or tribal pattern-matching belongs to one side. I'm *specifically* tracking the media narrative, because I'm trying to explain that this — who chooses the symbols & how they propagate — is at the core of IDW sense-making.

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Tobias Wirtz‏ @_w0bi 29 Jun 2019

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This is a different criticism than the one that is often made by IDW members though I feel. A few of the news sites that you posted a screencap of actually lean conservative (NY Post, Washington Examiner). Yet there is often a very clear political label attached to this criticism

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Mason ‏ @webdevMason 29 Jun 2019

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I guess I can't do more than just refer you back to my first tweet and offer to agree to disagree on what the IDW is

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Tobias Wirtz‏ @_w0bi 29 Jun 2019

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I definitely agree with you that there are people in the IDW that are essentially just doing it to decentralize narratives. That's all fine, but you still have a significant amount of people who pander even more recklessly than any "mainstream media" source. E.g. @RubinReport

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Mason ‏ @webdevMason 29 Jun 2019

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You're doing something really interesting over the last several tweets and I'm wondering if you've noticed it

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Tobias Wirtz‏ @_w0bi 29 Jun 2019

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Enlighten me

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Mason ‏ @webdevMason 29 Jun 2019

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You're acknowledging that you understand that I'm trying to play the meta game, but giving me nothing to respond to that won't drag me back into the object-level game. That's why we're trapped in a loop where I can't do anything except tread water while pointing at the meta game

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Tobias Wirtz‏ @_w0bi 29 Jun 2019

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Maybe we are actually not that far apart. I think the IDW is right about the decline of traditional media and is often right to criticize some of its properties. Yet an intellectually honest person would then go on and police the "alternative media" just as much or more for sim.

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Mason ‏ @webdevMason 29 Jun 2019

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To police the "alternative media" just as much is to acknowledge that /u/50Shades is functionally equivalent to the New York Times, which is something I don't think any of the IDW folks are comfortable doing

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