From @MikeNayna's doc on Evergreen State, a line I can't get out of my head:
"I can't make you agree or disagree — I hate to even use that language, of agree or disagree — but when you're here you are required by your job to create an atmosphere in which all children can learn."
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I'm re-listening to the doc with a pedagogy-as-gaslighting frame rather than focusing on the social justice elements. It's really well done. However bad Evergreen State's treatment of
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A broad observation: people in a hierarchy have a strong emotional reaction when those they internally accept as their higher-ups publicly debase themselves. The nature of the reaction probably varies notably depending on whether they're aggressively climbing or seeking stability
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I think most college students perceive the hierarchy in which they and their professors exist to be largely collaborative, and they benefit from *their direct higher-ups climbing* moreso than from climbing themselves at the expense of those higher-ups
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So when college students watch their professors debase themselves, repeatedly and consistently, they feel anxiety, frustration, and ultimately *resentment.* We had an agreement! YOU are supposed to be guiding ME, raising ME up, but at every opportunity you're lowering yourself!
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I don't think it's surprising that they try to bring themselves under the umbrella of the figures that are capturing the social capital & power, and one way to do that is by attacking a perceptibly weak element of resistance: the few who are neither capitalizing nor capitulating
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After all, if the resistance succeeds, where does that leave them? Who knows. Their direct higher-ups have already irrecoverably revealed themselves to be unworthy of their position. There's no going back, which is what the resistance appears to be aiming for.
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One implication of this story I'm telling (which may be closer to or further from the truth, but definitely isn't the whole truth): **the behavior of the students is largely a dependent variable.** The table is set by a few instigators & a critical mass of faculty fully yielding
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Most college programs sell themselves on teaching students how to think, but seem to either assume they already learned that, or not bother at all. College grads seem like 13th graders with enormous debt and a binge drinking habit while admins laugh all the way to the bank.
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I'm on both sides of this. I've seen examples of students disrupting lectures by arguing - when they didn't know what they were talking about. I'm down with questioning authority, but listening is a good thing to learn how to do also. There's a time for everything.
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