No: the market was created explicitly because it allowed for a kind of regulatory arbitrage. The legal categories *made* the market as it is.
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Replying to @chrislhayes
I don't think that's right. Classifying drivers as employees would make it very difficult for Uber to offer the level of autonomy they currently enjoy. They'd have to limit when and where drivers drive in order to ensure they got enough fares to be worth minimum wage.
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Replying to @binarybits @chrislhayes
And I think that would be genuinely worse for a fair number of Uber drivers, especially those who are doing it part time in the down time between other commitments.
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I think Uber/Lyft would (mostly) look the same with a 3rd category. There's demand for flexible work + a market maker that can match supply/demand quickly. Those are the fundamentals.
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Replying to @calebwatney @ne0liberal and
If Uber/Lyft drivers aren't independent contractors, who is? If you're arguing we've overbuilt a rigid healthcare/retirement/etc. infrastructure that's insufficient for this class of worker, I'm with you, but "these people don't belong in the screwed-over class" feels a bit dodgy
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Replying to @webdevMason @calebwatney and
A genuine independent contractor is like a plumber who comes to my house once, does a job, and never comes back. If you're working for the same company month after month for years, you're at least close to the employee/contractor line.
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Replying to @ne0liberal @binarybits and
I'm not saying you're wrong... but you're writing as though there's some obvious dimension along which these workers are very different from the rest of the [extremely diverse] "independent contractor" category — so obvious that it needn't even be stated. Maybe I'm slow.
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Replying to @webdevMason @ne0liberal and
I think the murkiness of the contractor/employee line is problematic in a lot of different industries. Uber just happens to be a high-profile consumer brand people like to talk about.
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I agree! But I also think the murkiness cuts across a lot of different axes, and if you're going to propose a new category to clean up the murk, it's important to clarify where some bright(er) lines might be drawn, and what practical tradeoffs are implicit
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