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    1. Timothy B. Lee‏Verified account @binarybits 15 May 2019
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      I am not following you. The lack of a third category caused the political dysfunction? Poor enforcement of overtime rules gave workers more control over their hours?

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    2. Chris Hayes‏Verified account @chrislhayes 15 May 2019
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      No: the market was created explicitly because it allowed for a kind of regulatory arbitrage. The legal categories *made* the market as it is.

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    3. Timothy B. Lee‏Verified account @binarybits 15 May 2019
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      I don't think that's right. Classifying drivers as employees would make it very difficult for Uber to offer the level of autonomy they currently enjoy. They'd have to limit when and where drivers drive in order to ensure they got enough fares to be worth minimum wage.

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    4. Timothy B. Lee‏Verified account @binarybits 15 May 2019
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      And I think that would be genuinely worse for a fair number of Uber drivers, especially those who are doing it part time in the down time between other commitments.

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    6. Caleb Watney‏Verified account @calebwatney 15 May 2019
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      I think Uber/Lyft would (mostly) look the same with a 3rd category. There's demand for flexible work + a market maker that can match supply/demand quickly. Those are the fundamentals.

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    7. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 15 May 2019
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      Replying to @calebwatney @ne0liberal and

      If Uber/Lyft drivers aren't independent contractors, who is? If you're arguing we've overbuilt a rigid healthcare/retirement/etc. infrastructure that's insufficient for this class of worker, I'm with you, but "these people don't belong in the screwed-over class" feels a bit dodgy

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    8. Timothy B. Lee‏Verified account @binarybits 15 May 2019
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      A genuine independent contractor is like a plumber who comes to my house once, does a job, and never comes back. If you're working for the same company month after month for years, you're at least close to the employee/contractor line.

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    9. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 15 May 2019
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      That's one example, but as someone who did dev/design contracting for years, it's not especially typical.

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    10. Timothy B. Lee‏Verified account @binarybits 15 May 2019
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      I think lots of companies have "independent contractors" who would be classified as employees if labor law was enforced more rigorously.

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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 15 May 2019
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      I mean, realistically, I think a lot of companies have "independent contractors" who would largely be out of work if they would otherwise have to be offered employment. It's an extremely diverse classification that exists for a reason.

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        1. Timothy B. Lee‏Verified account @binarybits 15 May 2019
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          That seems right too.

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