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    1. Friel‏ @AaronFriel 8 May 2019
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      Replying to @AaronFriel @davis_yoshida @webdevMason

      I don't know what views OP has, but Eric Weinstein certainly seems to think "social construct" means fake based on his replies. Not sure what he earnestly *means* either, but math is definitely a social construct, just one that evolves out of largely academia and philosophy

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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️ Retweeted Eric Weinstein

      I agree w Eric that this looks like a motte/bailey, esp looking at the replies to Matt (a mix of reply-to-motte, reply-to-bailey). We can talk about useful maths conventions, the research environment, etc. but we can't pretend these are all the same convohttps://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1126156211970138112 …

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      Replying to @ParkerMolloy @mattyglesias @voxdotcom
      Cool. “Sure there is mathematical truth but approaches are socially constructed.” is the Motte. Not at argument. The problem is the Bailey like this “We need people to step down because whiteness has colonized science which is socially constructed.”: https://blogs.ams.org/inclusionexclusion/2017/05/11/get-out-the-way/ …
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    4. Friel‏ @AaronFriel 8 May 2019
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      I don't know why Eric thinks it's a good faith argument to suggest that people want to ban Jordan Peterson books (legally? mechanism not proposed) and that math is a social construct, tbh.

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    5. Friel‏ @AaronFriel 8 May 2019
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      Or rather, math being a social construct is absurd in the same way banning books is? Or that they have any logical connection?

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    6. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 8 May 2019
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      Replying to @AaronFriel @davis_yoshida

      I don't know that he's ever made either of those claims specifically, at least prior to Matt's tweet. Uri Harris wrote the piece that referenced those claims, and I read it as a hand-wavey reference to the extremist fringe

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    7. Friel‏ @AaronFriel 8 May 2019
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      Replying to @webdevMason @davis_yoshida

      Is math being a social construct an extremist fringe? Am I for defending that? That seems like a bizarre association to make

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    8. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 8 May 2019
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      Replying to @AaronFriel @davis_yoshida

      It depends on what you mean by "social construct," which is why it's fertile ground for an effective motte/bailey. All of reality is and its contents are "socially constructed," given a particular definition for "social construct." You'd have to ask Uri what he meant

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      Replying to @webdevMason @AaronFriel @davis_yoshida

      For my part (being non-mathsy), David Deutsch has gotten me interested in Popper & I like Popper's take (what we call math can be logical *or* descriptive claims). A layer up, I think relabeling "useful math conventions" as "social constructs" isn't helpful for understanding them

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    10. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 8 May 2019
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      Replying to @webdevMason @AaronFriel @davis_yoshida

      You can go another layer up and talk about whether any society (necessarily biased & systemically ignorant, as they all are) that funds maths research for its own purposes will output distorted math. I'm certain this does output some amount of bad work and less useful conventions

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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 8 May 2019
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      Replying to @webdevMason @AaronFriel @davis_yoshida

      I'm not a mathematician and have low confidence in all of these positions, and tbh at each layer I don't think "Is this socially constructed?" is a particularly useful question — though I think it's a more useful question at the top of the stack (re: institutions).

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          But I wouldn't bemoan anyone asking or answering it at any layer **as long as they're clear about the layer they're working on.** When Matt relies on a "philosophy of math" motte & then follows up by tweeting about trans athletes, I feel very 🤨 https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1126228807273336833 …

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        3. Friel‏ @AaronFriel 8 May 2019
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          Why is that? I don't see the Motte and Bailey here. Both are socially constructed, neither of which confers a moral value on the construction. Indeed, in the case of both gender and math, it invites criticism that long held beliefs that are held to be may not be true

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