"Slow population growth & consumption to try and avoid mass suffering in the near future and possible extinction" != "murder & sterilize people." It's insane that people who claim to value human life so much ignore that business as usual dooms billions to displacement or death
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Replying to @BoltzmannBody @TheDecentTech and
Go find someone who's defending business as usual.
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Replying to @webdevMason @TheDecentTech and
as far as i can tell you're defending continued exponential growth in population and consumption, sooooo
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Replying to @BoltzmannBody @TheDecentTech and
Business as usual is plummeting birth rates in high-education hubs, an adamant aesthetic-based dismissal of key technologies to reverse the most concerning of the trends you point at, and a broad shift toward an agrarian sensibility that is *less* sustainable at a *lower* pop.
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Replying to @webdevMason @TheDecentTech and
go find someone engaging in "aesthetic-based dismissal of key technologies to reverse the most concerning of the trends." we should dump asstons of money into all kinds of tech. But we also shouldn't have blind faith that it'll succeed & use it as justification for exp. growth
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Replying to @BoltzmannBody @TheDecentTech and
A population implosion in the parts of the world with functional tech hubs would decimate the funding available for this tech & the projects available to fund. There is no non-migratory growth here, and your arguments aren't super persuasive to Niger, Somalia, the Congo.
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Replying to @webdevMason @BoltzmannBody and
Tell yourself a voluntary fertility decline is some kind of solution, but we already have that in the richer parts of the world. Keep talking just to hear yourself, or go look up the countries with the top birth rates & think about how you're going to pitch green hipsterism there
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Replying to @webdevMason @BoltzmannBody and
Make sure to pack the blown-up phytoplankton chart
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Replying to @webdevMason @BoltzmannBody and
FWIW, as education access blossoms in these places, the opportunity for new hubs will grow as pop growth there likely slows. See the new models predicting a global pop flatlining, assuming education trends continue unabated. Westerners hand-wringing over 1-2 kids are just silly
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Replying to @webdevMason @TheDecentTech and
Most of the people in the global south contribute negligibly to most of these problems. Westerners are doing the great majority of the damage. That's why it's irresponsible to mock the idea that Westerners should not have kids. That's why it's good our pop. growth has flatlined.
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They contribute negligibly to both the problem and the solution, but this will change as education spreads/regional wealth grows, at which point we can expect similar trends in pop growth (/decline) to emerge. But then we're back to "tech or self-elimination?" There's no hedging.
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