Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️

just strikes me as strange to uncritically support continued exponential growth despite the knowledge that it's eroding the systems that make human existence possible in the first place.

The nature-as-aesthetic circlejerk is doing no good to anybody. Nuclear & lab meat are actual solutions that don't appease the would-be office hippie with a screensaver of the Amazon. All I'm suggesting is that such people give themselves a tiny, tiny taste of the real thing.

do you genuinely think that being worried about a 40% decline in phytoplankton--which produce half the oxygen we breathe--since 1950 is a "nature-as-aesthetic circlejerk"? One example among many. Nukes & lab meat are obviously necessary. Just as obviously, they're not sufficient.

I'm sorry, where was that on your chart? If you want to get into the real shit, let's get into the real shit. How many human beings need to die or be sterilized to prevent ecological collapse?

"Slow population growth & consumption to try and avoid mass suffering in the near future and possible extinction" != "murder & sterilize people." It's insane that people who claim to value human life so much ignore that business as usual dooms billions to displacement or death

Go find someone who's defending business as usual.

as far as i can tell you're defending continued exponential growth in population and consumption, sooooo

Business as usual is plummeting birth rates in high-education hubs, an adamant aesthetic-based dismissal of key technologies to reverse the most concerning of the trends you point at, and a broad shift toward an agrarian sensibility that is *less* sustainable at a *lower* pop.