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    1. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 30 Apr 2019
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      One Netflix show causing a 29% increase in suicide rates? Numbers like these from studies with ‘adjusted for’ stats should cause an immediate reaction of “Nope” or less politely “Bullshit.”https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1123240275869040640 …

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      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      When @netflix chose to release and promote a show about a teen who committed suicide, experts warned that it could to cause an increase in suicides especially among adolescents. Now, research finds that's exactly what happened. https://www.nimh.nih.gov/news/science-news/2019/release-of-13-reasons-why-associated-with-increase-in-youth-suicide-rates.shtml … pic.twitter.com/me1QMTDxSt
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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 30 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @ESYudkowsky

      I actually tried to pull the data they looked at (though I could only find CDC data aggregated by age into clusters for 5-14 & 15-24 years) to visualize. What I saw showed a clear & concerning upward trend in suicides over 5 years but nothing remarkable for April 2017

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        2. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 30 Apr 2019
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          Will share when I get to my laptop. I don't know that I'd dismiss an effect altogether, but it definitely looks in the realm of "a small handful of suicides are possibly attributable" at most, and I don't think that's the takeaway most folks are getting

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        3. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 1 May 2019
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          (April 2017 highlighted in red)pic.twitter.com/4zMxFLDZMY

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        1. Daniel Wang‏ @ddwang 1 May 2019
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          Replying to @webdevMason @ESYudkowsky

          I also couldn't find any monthly data at all (I only looked at CDC WISQARS and WONDER). FWIW, the yearly data shows a clear up trend for all groups but particular 10-14 & 15-19, with 2017 being the highest. Also the homicide rate did not trend up as the researcher noted

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        1. Ordinary Pragmatist‏ @Eric_velnon 1 May 2019
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          You made my day. I appreciate knowing there are people who actually look into reports...knowing there is a reproducibility problem.

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        1. Dan  🔰 🏗️ 🌐‏ @dan3944 1 May 2019
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          Someone in the comments of/r/science pointed out it looked like p-hacking. Multiple cohorts tested, only reported the results for one of them.

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