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    1. Michael Nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 14 Apr 2019
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      The first sentence is just plain wrong. But the implied question, when fixed up, is a good one: what are the opportunity costs for SR? I've experimented intensively with this question in mind. AFAICT, SR is most useful when learning a little outside your expertise.

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    2. Michael Nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 14 Apr 2019
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      Inside one's field or fields of expertise, SR is still occasionally useful, with little niggling things you keep having to look up. But for the most part I agree: one's natural interest and ways of encoding knowledge are powerful signals which do most of the trick.

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    3. Michael Nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 14 Apr 2019
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      (Caveat: within one's field there are genuinely valuable ways of using SRS: http://cognitivemedium.com/srs-mathematics  But that piece is principally about a very useful method of analysis; the use of SRS is subsidiary, & has some problems associated to opportunity cost, as discussed at the end.)

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    4. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 14 Apr 2019
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      You told me once that you have things like paintings you like in your SRS — this seems lovely and right. Intuitively, it feels less hacky/risky to apply SR principles to unlabeled lovely things, rather than flashcard-style "view input, produce output, check output against record"

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    5. Michael Nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 14 Apr 2019
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      SRS gives you control over what you remember. Turns out, granted that power, most people don't know what to do with it. I think that's the fundamental reason underlying the risk, & can cause high opportunity costs.

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    6. Michael Nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 14 Apr 2019
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      Eg, I keep meeting people who use SRS to memorize lists of capitals of countries they don't care about, or dates in history they don't care about, or minutiae of APIs they almost never use. Ask them why, and their models are very poor.

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    7. Michael Nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 14 Apr 2019
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      If you conceive of SRS as a skill, which you have to learn how to deploy well, that's a very useful point of view; it's basically a piece of memory technology. But it really is a non-trivial skill to develop.

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    8. Michael Nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 14 Apr 2019
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      There's an analogy to sudden wealth. Years ago I searched around for reddit discussions of what to do if you suddenly had wealth. It was striking to read hundreds of messages & realize many people have no idea what to do. Doesn't make it useless, but many ppl's models are bad

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    9. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 14 Apr 2019
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      It seems people weirdly believe that knowledge is mostly stored in key-value pairs, which is why flashcards + SRS defaults look the way they do. This very seems wrong & I worry that hacking memory in that format undercuts the human gift for incredible open-ended pattern detection

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    10. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 14 Apr 2019
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      (very seems, indeed)

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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 14 Apr 2019
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      I love the idea of deciding at a very high level that something is truly beautiful or remarkable or interesting, and having some way of overriding the brain's brutally effective dump system if need be! But to brute force a particular data structure seems *super* risky

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        2. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 14 Apr 2019
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          and yes, to force pointless reference materials — capitals, dates, digits of pi — seems... almost dehumanizing, especially in the age of instantaneous universal reference material on demand

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        3. gabriel‏ @_lundrigang 14 Apr 2019
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          It is an affront to human dignity, the arbitrary hoops one must jump through.

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        1. Erwin Kuhn‏ @ErwKuhn 14 Apr 2019
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          The other beautiful aspect of SRS is the serendipity it sometimes leads to. Interesting ideas you've entered a while ago that collide with ones you're thinking about now.

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