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    Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 13 Apr 2019
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    Universities actually cram very little information into students, and they do it painfully slowly. Bad pedagogy leaves only crude brute force study methods viable; profs have to limit the scope if they want to keep their students happy enough to not bash them on Rate My Professorhttps://twitter.com/TheAyenem/status/1116771886132813825 …

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    @ESYudkowsky @webdevMason Uni's teaching system (especially eng degrees) cram so much in a short period of time that the most efficient way of learning is suspension of disbelief. "Where does this come from? Why this?" "Nvm just apply the formula, get your grade yay you're great"
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      2. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 13 Apr 2019
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        I'm not denying that some students study very hard, or that some programs require something like an order of magnitude more content to be retained in the short- to medium-term. Just that there is a hard limit on how much content can be crammed this way, and it's a low ceiling

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      3. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 13 Apr 2019
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        If it feels like school is an all-consuming slog, that's the feeling of fighting your brain -- which builds models, and has to consume and discard massive volumes of extraneous information. "This isn't extraneous!" It doesn't believe you, and you don't really believe you, either

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      4. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 13 Apr 2019
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        I should note that there are (probably broadly trainable) strategies for massively improved rote memorization, but the very hacky way this works makes me very skeptical that information stored this way can be accessed for much more than basic call-and-response

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      2. JamesonLaw‏ @JamesonHalpern 13 Apr 2019
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        Replying to @webdevMason

        Sal Khan has said education would work better if the students read and watched videos at home, and then spent 80% or more of class time solving problems under the tutelage of the professor. The Lecture model has failed us.

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      2. Ayenem‏ @TheAyenem 13 Apr 2019
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        I guess it may depend on the program, but in engineering the statement "cram very little information" would make most students hysterically laugh all the way to their deaths...At least I would.

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      3. Watson Ladd‏ @WatsonLadd 13 Apr 2019
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        Replying to @TheAyenem @webdevMason

        Why do students today study less than in the 1960's despite increases in what must be learned?

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      2. Dominique Luna‏ @lunaticd 13 Apr 2019
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        Incentives run everything. Major problems arise when you substitute with poor approximations. An easy example is good grades translating to comprehensive understanding. Sometimes sure, but there are many ways to get good grades without it.

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      3. Ayenem‏ @TheAyenem 13 Apr 2019
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        Poor approximations are what ruin my incentives. I end up obsessing over fully learning a particular concept, investing the time, and lagging behind on everything else. That's pretty much the price of refusing to just suspend your disbelief and move on to the next subject.

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      2. Spencer Clark‏ @spenclark 13 Apr 2019
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        If you put a full week worth into a course - you can almost always master the material. University could, in theory, be shortened 75%. I think its mostly drawn out for administrative reasons. Most students already work on a cramming schedule so it would be pretty easy.

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      3. Ayenem‏ @TheAyenem 13 Apr 2019
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        I completely agree, the problem is that doing that inevitably makes you severely lag behind on other courses & deadlines.

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