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    1. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 26 Mar 2019
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      Personality testing is illegal; "integrity testing" is legal

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    2. ☉rthnormalist‏ @orthonormalist 26 Mar 2019
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      I'll have to review after work but I seem to recall (also, am not a lawyer) that if a standardized test produces adverse demographic impact you're risking a huge lawsuit.

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    3. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 26 Mar 2019
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      Yeah, there's a messy framework around the thing that I've not spent much time exploring, but since the law applies to what employers can require from applicants & not what applicants can offer to employers via 3rd parties, I bet there are at least a few safe paths around that

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    4. ☉rthnormalist‏ @orthonormalist 26 Mar 2019
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      I think that the point is to not provide a safe path around it because adverse/disparate impact.

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    5. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 26 Mar 2019
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      I don't have any ethical concerns with employers trying to hire people with higher IQs

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    6. ☉rthnormalist‏ @orthonormalist 26 Mar 2019
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      Yeah but you're not sitting on the Supreme Court.

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    7. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 26 Mar 2019
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      I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, here...? I don't believe there are any legal grounds to rest on if you're providing information about applicants with their consent, LinkedIn-style.

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    8. Simon Sarris‏ @simonsarris 26 Mar 2019
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      The Supreme Court decided in 1971 that requiring job applicants to take IQ tests (or any test that can't be shown to measure skill related to the job) violated Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. To sell such a product is to sell someone a minefield. None would buy!

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    9. Simon Sarris‏ @simonsarris 26 Mar 2019
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      Using it would be too risky for a company to want to use in any overt capacity, so I don't think it would sell well.

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    10. Simon Sarris‏ @simonsarris 26 Mar 2019
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      (I assume you know all this and the value add here is "totally doesn't look like an IQ test", but maybe onlookers do not)

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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 26 Mar 2019
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      Correct

      12:49 PM - 26 Mar 2019
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        2. Simon Sarris‏ @simonsarris 26 Mar 2019
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          To do this I think most companies are happy writing "4 year degree required" even when its clearly not, because: * it shifts any disparate impact claims onto another entity * terrible/funny plus that instead of hiring departments paying for it, they make the employee pay for it!

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        3. Simon Sarris‏ @simonsarris 26 Mar 2019
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          If you could devise a system like that, which crucially shifts the blame of any complaints lodged at it, then you might have gold!

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