I'm not sure these are completely separable problems. If there were easy ways to quantify and communicate (at scale) most non-technical skills, then I suspect fewer students would graduate without *actual skills*. Also, my robes *are* beautiful, trust me.
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Replying to @Benokur @tommycollison
Most real abilities are evaluated through portfolios and confirmed via references; this is how the economy manages to handle the churning of experienced labor. In reality, this is also how hiring works for inexperienced grads seeking top-tier gigs, but we don't tell the kids that
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The truth is that if you're completely incapable of demonstrating a skill, you don't have it. Employers don't actually demand evaluations that can produce numeral rankings to place humans at some discrete position on a normal distribution. They just need demonstrated ability.
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More importantly: when hiring at entry level, they don't expect someone who can do the job. They expect someone who is smart, conscientious, and dedicated. An IQ test + a proven willingness to do something as tedious as Bible-copying + a pile of debt would do nicely.
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Replying to @webdevMason @tommycollison
This is an extremely good argument. But doesn't it weigh against the value of credentialing *actual skills* at entry-level? A university degree is an effective credential for this at very low information cost to employers.
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Replying to @Benokur @tommycollison
Actual skills = immediate productive capacity. Very few young people have developed any skills, and the ones that have usually can't communicate them in a way that employers respect (e.g. "wrote extremely popular fanfiction" or "built notorious Minecraft bot")
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Replying to @webdevMason @tommycollison
So your core argument is that at entry level, there is very little actual skill to credential so economy-scale pre-portfolio credentials can only be ranked according to how efficiently they capture IQ, conscientiousness, and diligence (and universities rank badly on that metric)?
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Replying to @Benokur @tommycollison
1. (Most) high schools & (most) college utilize ineffective teaching methods, but high marks demonstrate conscientiousness & compliant behavior. 2. The SAT is essentially an IQ test. 3. Getting into a good college signals for IQ, finishing demonstrates conscientiousness. (cont)
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4. Conscientiousness may've once been more valuable to employers than creativity, but the big pots in the economy have moved; that's no longer the case. 5. People who can design & execute their own projects are worth a lot, but kids have less & less opportunity to do that (cont)
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6. Less self-motivated kids can demonstrate IQ & conscientiousness w/ college, but it's increasingly expensive + time-consuming & locks them into fields they may not even like. 7. Mentor-apprenticeships make sense, but nobody is funding them; kids can't get loans for them (cont)
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8. Finally, the long-run value of creativity will only rise. Colleges have not demonstrated any ability to generate creatives, despite a body of research directed toward finding that. I suspect that you have to target early education to make great gains.
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Replying to @webdevMason @tommycollison
Thanks for laying this out! I think I understand your original argument re: credentials better now, and I appreciate you taking the time to argue it out. Will also read the Caplan book to learn more.
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