Mm, I am a pretty big fan of capitalism and innovation... but I still think that when we encounter cases of fraud (especially fraud that went undetected for years), we should update at least a little towards "the system doesn't work as well as we thought"
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Replying to @juliagalef @Jonathan_Blow and
tbh, I assumed Theranos was an example of some dangerously gameable incentives in VC, at least in an environment flush w/ cash relative to the strength of the field... but someone pointed out that there actually wasn't much VC money in Theranos, & aside from DFJ mostly no-names
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Replying to @webdevMason @Jonathan_Blow and
Agree Theranos doesn't reflect badly on Silicon Valley VC. I suspect it does reflect badly on other institutions, or parts of society (in the sense that the fact Holmes got away w/fraud for so long is a sign that *something* is working suboptimally), but too hard to say what rn
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Replying to @juliagalef @webdevMason and
My point was just that counting Theranos as a *positive* update about society just because we eventually discovered it (which Jonathan seemed to be doing) was unwarranted If we followed that logic then any fraud we discover = good sign about society
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Replying to @juliagalef @webdevMason and
It is a tricky question how to decide which cases of "uncovered fraud" are good signs vs. bad signs about society, and I won't try to disambiguate Anyway I'll drop this branch bc you've already got plenty to manage in this thread and I don't think this point is worth it!
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Replying to @juliagalef @webdevMason and
Frauds that went on for a long time, with buy-in at many stages from many people, imply at least that the fraud-catching system is *slow*. If you don't additionally see corresponding frauds caught a bit earlier, it suggests lots of other frauds.
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A lot of fraud-catching systems are slow, yes... I recommend reading Bad Blood because it really highlights how long an entire org can straight-up lie — near-publicly — about having FDA approval before any consequences accrue
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